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"N8N" > wrote:
>Just got an Impala last night (company car... not actually mine, mine >is at a dealership somewhere because someone who was supposed to do >some paperwork was on vacation... but I digress) ANYWAY... any doubt >in my mind that the automatic headlights are a bad idea has now been >erased. When you leave the vehicle, the lights stay on for 30 seconds >or so... AFAIK, the Impala owner's manual has instructions on how to disable the headlamp delay (or extend it to 60 seconds...). Maybe GM enables the "feature" by default so that owners who are not inclined to read the manual are aware that the feature exists (as John S mentioned, some people actually *prefer* the headlamp delay). -- Chuck Tomlinson |
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Chuck Tomlinson wrote: > "N8N" > wrote: > >Just got an Impala last night (company car... not actually mine, mine > >is at a dealership somewhere because someone who was supposed to do > >some paperwork was on vacation... but I digress) ANYWAY... any doubt > >in my mind that the automatic headlights are a bad idea has now been > >erased. When you leave the vehicle, the lights stay on for 30 seconds > >or so... > > AFAIK, the Impala owner's manual has instructions on how to > disable the headlamp delay (or extend it to 60 seconds...). > > Maybe GM enables the "feature" by default so that owners who > are not inclined to read the manual are aware that the > feature exists (as John S mentioned, some people actually > *prefer* the headlamp delay). > -- > Chuck Tomlinson Well, I get "my" car today... hopefully this one comes with the manual so I can figure out which features I can't defeat and which ones are just factory set by default! nate |
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"Chuck Tomlinson" > wrote in message ... > > AFAIK, the Impala owner's manual has instructions on how to > disable the headlamp delay (or extend it to 60 seconds...). When one *has* to read the owner manual in order to know how to work the lights, perhaps the control system is just a wee-bit "over-engineered". |
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James C. Reeves wrote:
> It is curious why GM engineered the lights to remain on for a period of time > by default after cutting the engine. The Chrysler products I own now have > the off delay as a option. IF you turn the lights off before cutting the > engine, the lights go out immediately. If you turn the lights off *after* > cutting the engine, they will stay on for a minute or so, then go out. So > if you need the illumination, you have it. Otherwise cut the lights > immediately. I don't know about current model Subarus, but the '92 model I have has the best solution. The lights would immediatly shut off when the ignition was switched off if you failed to switch them off beforehand. The lights were the manual kind as well. My Audi will shut the low beams off, but leave the sidemarker lights illuminated if I shut the ignition off without switching the lights off. I'm now trying to figure out how to disable the DRLs on my dad's Acura RL. Pulling the fuse has the desired result except for the "Check DRL system" message that won't go away ... |
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"James C. Reeves" > wrote:
>"Chuck Tomlinson" > wrote in message >> >> AFAIK, the Impala owner's manual has instructions on how to >> disable the headlamp delay (or extend it to 60 seconds...). > >When one *has* to read the owner manual in order to know how to work the >lights, perhaps the control system is just a wee-bit "over-engineered". Perhaps. I downloaded a 2005 Impala owner's manual from the Chevrolet Owner's Center: various customization settings (including the headlamp delays) are changed via the _radio_. The procedure is probably impossible to figure out unless the owner's manual is consulted. But if the owner does choose to RTFM, the procedure is quite easy to follow. I can't say whether GM made a reasonable decision when they decided to "overload" frequently-used buttons for seldom- (or rarely-)used features. But FWIW, I don't have a problem with having to read an owner's manual (whether electronic or paper) for a setup procedure that I would probably use exactly once. -- Chuck Tomlinson |
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Scott en Aztl=E1n wrote:
> There is a manual override. RTFM. Notice I said my _wife's_ car. |
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Chuck Tomlinson wrote: > Perhaps. I downloaded a 2005 Impala owner's manual from > the Chevrolet Owner's Center: various customization settings > (including the headlamp delays) are changed via the _radio_. Ummmm, what if you want an aftermarket radio? Dave |
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Around 7/23/2005 6:30 PM, Dave wrote:
> Chuck Tomlinson wrote: > > >>Perhaps. I downloaded a 2005 Impala owner's manual from >>the Chevrolet Owner's Center: various customization settings >>(including the headlamp delays) are changed via the _radio_. > > > Ummmm, what if you want an aftermarket radio? I'll bet that's not the only way to do it, just the only way easily available at home. The dealership could probably be persuaded to (grudgingly) plug your car into their computer and reprogram it's "features." -- ~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie. Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave. ******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant." for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956) |
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Garth Almgren wrote: > Around 7/23/2005 6:30 PM, Dave wrote: > > > Chuck Tomlinson wrote: > > > > > >>Perhaps. I downloaded a 2005 Impala owner's manual from > >>the Chevrolet Owner's Center: various customization settings > >>(including the headlamp delays) are changed via the _radio_. > > > > > > Ummmm, what if you want an aftermarket radio? > > I'll bet that's not the only way to do it, just the only way easily > available at home. The dealership could probably be persuaded to > (grudgingly) plug your car into their computer and reprogram it's > "features." Too much hassle, I'll stick with Honda/Toyota. Dave |
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"Dave" > wrote in message ups.com... > > Chuck Tomlinson wrote: > >> Perhaps. I downloaded a 2005 Impala owner's manual from >> the Chevrolet Owner's Center: various customization settings >> (including the headlamp delays) are changed via the _radio_. > > Ummmm, what if you want an aftermarket radio? > > Dave > You'll loose the "chimes" too....those also are generated by the radio. |
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