Dear Tard

Wow, what a "me first" attititude. Don't you know you should let the poor SOB
out so you too can be screwed, like everyone wants me to be while driving in
the right lane and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over and slower drivers to maybe get
trapped behind during high(er) congestion times like "drive home" time (its
still pretty light - hard to call it a "rush") and etc.

C'mon, put yourself 2nd, let the schmuck out in front of you! It doesn't
matter that you get home 20 minutes later than you otherwise would. C'mon...

Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
this must mean... that _you're_ driving in the passing lane... wow. You mean
you _didn't_ immediately jump in behind this slower car (as you would have me
do) as soon as you could, so that he doesn't even _have_ to put on his turn
signal to "ask" you to get in the left lane?????? Hell, virtually everyone
else on _my_ road is _slower_ than me, yet you want me to jump in behind 'em.

Yeah, you're driving just like me. I _knew_ it, but this is the 1st real
evidence...

DPH

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:28:37 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:

>Dear Tard,
>
>If you want to change into my lane, please bear in mind that your turn
>signal is at most a REQUEST - it does not confer any sort of
>obligation onto me to accomodate your whims. Note also that I am
>unlikely to grant that request if you are driving more slowly than I
>am. Why on earth would I voluntarily slow down, allow you to merge in
>front of me, and then be stuck behind you as you plod along at 2/3 of
>my former speed? Don't give me that look of surprise and disbelief as
>I pass by you and your blinking turn signal; there's plenty of room
>for your sloth ass to merge in BEHIND me.
>
>Remember, a lack of planning on your part does not constitute an
>emergency on my part. If you REALLY want to make it into that left
>turn lane in front of me, you're going to have to ACCELERATE so that
>you are travelling FASTER than I am. I'm driving alog at a nice,
>steady, predictable speed; if you deserve that license you have in
>your wallet, you'll have no problem choosing an appropriate speed and
>merging in without my having to alter my speed (or my course) to avoid
>hitting you. Not making me slow down for your last-minute,
>poorly-planned course correction is just plain old common courtesy -
>you know, the Golden Rule of Driving.
>
>Yes, I know you're used to people who just let you do it. And I could
>tell from your gestures that you thought *I* was the bad guy because I
>wouldn't slow down and let you in. But now that you're reading these
>words, you know better. Here's hoping you learn from the experience
>and will be more courteous next time.
>
>Safe Driving to you!

Wow, what a "me first" attititude. Don't you know you should let the poor SOB
out so you too can be screwed, like everyone wants me to be while driving in
the right lane and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over and slower drivers to maybe get
trapped behind during high(er) congestion times like "drive home" time (its
still pretty light - hard to call it a "rush") and etc.

C'mon, put yourself 2nd, let the schmuck out in front of you! It doesn't
matter that you get home 20 minutes later than you otherwise would. C'mon...

Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
this must mean... that _you're_ driving in the passing lane... wow. You mean
you _didn't_ immediately jump in behind this slower car (as you would have me
do) as soon as you could, so that he doesn't even _have_ to put on his turn
signal to "ask" you to get in the left lane?????? Hell, virtually everyone
else on _my_ road is _slower_ than me, yet you want me to jump in behind 'em.

Yeah, you're driving just like me. I _knew_ it, but this is the 1st real
evidence...

DPH

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:28:37 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:

>Dear Tard,
>
>If you want to change into my lane, please bear in mind that your turn
>signal is at most a REQUEST - it does not confer any sort of
>obligation onto me to accomodate your whims. Note also that I am
>unlikely to grant that request if you are driving more slowly than I
>am. Why on earth would I voluntarily slow down, allow you to merge in
>front of me, and then be stuck behind you as you plod along at 2/3 of
>my former speed? Don't give me that look of surprise and disbelief as
>I pass by you and your blinking turn signal; there's plenty of room
>for your sloth ass to merge in BEHIND me.
>
>Remember, a lack of planning on your part does not constitute an
>emergency on my part. If you REALLY want to make it into that left
>turn lane in front of me, you're going to have to ACCELERATE so that
>you are travelling FASTER than I am. I'm driving alog at a nice,
>steady, predictable speed; if you deserve that license you have in
>your wallet, you'll have no problem choosing an appropriate speed and
>merging in without my having to alter my speed (or my course) to avoid
>hitting you. Not making me slow down for your last-minute,
>poorly-planned course correction is just plain old common courtesy -
>you know, the Golden Rule of Driving.
>
>Yes, I know you're used to people who just let you do it. And I could
>tell from your gestures that you thought *I* was the bad guy because I
>wouldn't slow down and let you in. But now that you're reading these
>words, you know better. Here's hoping you learn from the experience
>and will be more courteous next time.
>
>Safe Driving to you!

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:18:18 GMT, Dave Head > wrote:

>Wow, what a "me first" attititude. Don't you know you should let the poor SOB
>out so you too can be screwed, like everyone wants me to be


You mean like you want everyone else to be?



>while driving in
>the right lane and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
>bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over and slower drivers to maybe get
>trapped behind during high(er) congestion times like "drive home" time (its
>still pretty light - hard to call it a "rush") and etc.
>
>C'mon, put yourself 2nd, let the schmuck out in front of you! It doesn't
>matter that you get home 20 minutes later than you otherwise would. C'mon...
>
>Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
>this must mean... that _you're_ driving in the passing lane... wow. You mean
>you _didn't_ immediately jump in behind this slower car (as you would have me
>do) as soon as you could, so that he doesn't even _have_ to put on his turn
>signal to "ask" you to get in the left lane?????? Hell, virtually everyone
>else on _my_ road is _slower_ than me, yet you want me to jump in behind 'em.
>
>Yeah, you're driving just like me. I _knew_ it, but this is the 1st real
>evidence...
>
>DPH
>
>On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:28:37 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:
>
>>Dear Tard,
>>
>>If you want to change into my lane, please bear in mind that your turn
>>signal is at most a REQUEST - it does not confer any sort of
>>obligation onto me to accomodate your whims. Note also that I am
>>unlikely to grant that request if you are driving more slowly than I
>>am. Why on earth would I voluntarily slow down, allow you to merge in
>>front of me, and then be stuck behind you as you plod along at 2/3 of
>>my former speed? Don't give me that look of surprise and disbelief as
>>I pass by you and your blinking turn signal; there's plenty of room
>>for your sloth ass to merge in BEHIND me.
>>
>>Remember, a lack of planning on your part does not constitute an
>>emergency on my part. If you REALLY want to make it into that left
>>turn lane in front of me, you're going to have to ACCELERATE so that
>>you are travelling FASTER than I am. I'm driving alog at a nice,
>>steady, predictable speed; if you deserve that license you have in
>>your wallet, you'll have no problem choosing an appropriate speed and
>>merging in without my having to alter my speed (or my course) to avoid
>>hitting you. Not making me slow down for your last-minute,
>>poorly-planned course correction is just plain old common courtesy -
>>you know, the Golden Rule of Driving.
>>
>>Yes, I know you're used to people who just let you do it. And I could
>>tell from your gestures that you thought *I* was the bad guy because I
>>wouldn't slow down and let you in. But now that you're reading these
>>words, you know better. Here's hoping you learn from the experience
>>and will be more courteous next time.
>>
>>Safe Driving to you!

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 13:18:18 GMT, Dave Head > wrote:

>Wow, what a "me first" attititude. Don't you know you should let the poor SOB
>out so you too can be screwed, like everyone wants me to be


You mean like you want everyone else to be?



>while driving in
>the right lane and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
>bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over and slower drivers to maybe get
>trapped behind during high(er) congestion times like "drive home" time (its
>still pretty light - hard to call it a "rush") and etc.
>
>C'mon, put yourself 2nd, let the schmuck out in front of you! It doesn't
>matter that you get home 20 minutes later than you otherwise would. C'mon...
>
>Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
>this must mean... that _you're_ driving in the passing lane... wow. You mean
>you _didn't_ immediately jump in behind this slower car (as you would have me
>do) as soon as you could, so that he doesn't even _have_ to put on his turn
>signal to "ask" you to get in the left lane?????? Hell, virtually everyone
>else on _my_ road is _slower_ than me, yet you want me to jump in behind 'em.
>
>Yeah, you're driving just like me. I _knew_ it, but this is the 1st real
>evidence...
>
>DPH
>
>On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:28:37 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:
>
>>Dear Tard,
>>
>>If you want to change into my lane, please bear in mind that your turn
>>signal is at most a REQUEST - it does not confer any sort of
>>obligation onto me to accomodate your whims. Note also that I am
>>unlikely to grant that request if you are driving more slowly than I
>>am. Why on earth would I voluntarily slow down, allow you to merge in
>>front of me, and then be stuck behind you as you plod along at 2/3 of
>>my former speed? Don't give me that look of surprise and disbelief as
>>I pass by you and your blinking turn signal; there's plenty of room
>>for your sloth ass to merge in BEHIND me.
>>
>>Remember, a lack of planning on your part does not constitute an
>>emergency on my part. If you REALLY want to make it into that left
>>turn lane in front of me, you're going to have to ACCELERATE so that
>>you are travelling FASTER than I am. I'm driving alog at a nice,
>>steady, predictable speed; if you deserve that license you have in
>>your wallet, you'll have no problem choosing an appropriate speed and
>>merging in without my having to alter my speed (or my course) to avoid
>>hitting you. Not making me slow down for your last-minute,
>>poorly-planned course correction is just plain old common courtesy -
>>you know, the Golden Rule of Driving.
>>
>>Yes, I know you're used to people who just let you do it. And I could
>>tell from your gestures that you thought *I* was the bad guy because I
>>wouldn't slow down and let you in. But now that you're reading these
>>words, you know better. Here's hoping you learn from the experience
>>and will be more courteous next time.
>>
>>Safe Driving to you!

Around 12/21/2004 5:18 AM, Dave Head wrote:

> like everyone wants me to be while driving in
> the right lane

While you're at it, you can also knock off the top-posting.

> and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
> bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over

You must have Interstates unlike any that anyone has ever seen if you
have all that stuff happening to you.

With the exception of the occasional cop pulling into a U-turn, none of
the limited access roads I've seen ever has any of that kind of thing
happening.

Care to try any other fallacious rationalizations?

> Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
> this must mean...

That he's actively passing the person who is signaling.

Wow, proper usage of the passing lane. What a revolutionary concept.


--
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Around 12/21/2004 5:18 AM, Dave Head wrote:

> like everyone wants me to be while driving in
> the right lane

While you're at it, you can also knock off the top-posting.

> and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
> bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over

You must have Interstates unlike any that anyone has ever seen if you
have all that stuff happening to you.

With the exception of the occasional cop pulling into a U-turn, none of
the limited access roads I've seen ever has any of that kind of thing
happening.

Care to try any other fallacious rationalizations?

> Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
> this must mean...

That he's actively passing the person who is signaling.

Wow, proper usage of the passing lane. What a revolutionary concept.


--
~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant."
for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:17:01 -0800, Garth Almgren > wrote:

>Around 12/21/2004 5:18 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>
>> like everyone wants me to be while driving in
>> the right lane
>
>While you're at it, you can also knock off the top-posting.

That's not gonna happen, either. Hey - it'll give someone else another
triviality to whine about, and thus make usenet even more fun!

>
>> and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
>> bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over
>
>You must have Interstates unlike any that anyone has ever seen if you
>have all that stuff happening to you.

I keep saying - its Rt 3 east of Fredericksburg, Va. That is _not_ an
interstate.

>
>With the exception of the occasional cop pulling into a U-turn, none of
>the limited access roads I've seen ever has any of that kind of thing
>happening.

It ain't even limited access - which is what makes the left lane so desirable.
Lotsa dangerous **** going on in the right lane...

>Care to try any other fallacious rationalizations?

Care to pay attention?

>> Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
>> this must mean...
>
>That he's actively passing the person who is signaling.

So'm I.

DPH

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:17:01 -0800, Garth Almgren > wrote:

>Around 12/21/2004 5:18 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>
>> like everyone wants me to be while driving in
>> the right lane
>
>While you're at it, you can also knock off the top-posting.

That's not gonna happen, either. Hey - it'll give someone else another
triviality to whine about, and thus make usenet even more fun!

>
>> and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
>> bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over
>
>You must have Interstates unlike any that anyone has ever seen if you
>have all that stuff happening to you.

I keep saying - its Rt 3 east of Fredericksburg, Va. That is _not_ an
interstate.

>
>With the exception of the occasional cop pulling into a U-turn, none of
>the limited access roads I've seen ever has any of that kind of thing
>happening.

It ain't even limited access - which is what makes the left lane so desirable.
Lotsa dangerous **** going on in the right lane...

>Care to try any other fallacious rationalizations?

Care to pay attention?

>> Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
>> this must mean...
>
>That he's actively passing the person who is signaling.

So'm I.

DPH

Around 12/21/2004 3:27 PM, Dave Head wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:17:01 -0800, Garth Almgren > wrote:
>
>
>>Around 12/21/2004 5:18 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>>
>>>and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
>>>bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over
>>
>>You must have Interstates unlike any that anyone has ever seen if you
>>have all that stuff happening to you.
>
>
> I keep saying - its Rt 3 east of Fredericksburg, Va. That is _not_ an
> interstate.

Even so, your rationalizations are still just that. Not even good
rationalizations, since all they boil down to is irrational fear.

>>With the exception of the occasional cop pulling into a U-turn, none of
>>the limited access roads I've seen ever has any of that kind of thing
>>happening.
>
>
> It ain't even limited access - which is what makes the left lane so desirable.
> Lotsa dangerous **** going on in the right lane...

Is there *any* aspect of driving that doesn't frighten you?


>>Care to try any other fallacious rationalizations?
>
>
> Care to pay attention?

That's funny, coming from an oblivious LLB.


>>>Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
>>>this must mean...
>>
>>That he's actively passing the person who is signaling.
>
> So'm I.

See, that right there is where lying will get you into trouble.

No, you're *not* actively passing - not if, as you said, "THEY CAN
ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!"


--
~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant."
for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)

Around 12/21/2004 3:27 PM, Dave Head wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:17:01 -0800, Garth Almgren > wrote:
>
>
>>Around 12/21/2004 5:18 AM, Dave Head wrote:
>>
>>>and dealing with cars pulling out and cars braking to turn and
>>>bicyclists to run over and joggers to run over
>>
>>You must have Interstates unlike any that anyone has ever seen if you
>>have all that stuff happening to you.
>
>
> I keep saying - its Rt 3 east of Fredericksburg, Va. That is _not_ an
> interstate.

Even so, your rationalizations are still just that. Not even good
rationalizations, since all they boil down to is irrational fear.

>>With the exception of the occasional cop pulling into a U-turn, none of
>>the limited access roads I've seen ever has any of that kind of thing
>>happening.
>
>
> It ain't even limited access - which is what makes the left lane so desirable.
> Lotsa dangerous **** going on in the right lane...

Is there *any* aspect of driving that doesn't frighten you?


>>Care to try any other fallacious rationalizations?
>
>
> Care to pay attention?

That's funny, coming from an oblivious LLB.


>>>Hey, wait a minute - if he's signaling to _you_ to get into the "passing" lane
>>>this must mean...
>>
>>That he's actively passing the person who is signaling.
>
> So'm I.

See, that right there is where lying will get you into trouble.

No, you're *not* actively passing - not if, as you said, "THEY CAN
ALWAYS PASS ME ON THE RIGHT, LUNKHEAD!!!!"


--
~/Garth |"I believe that it is better to tell the truth than a lie.
Almgren | I believe it is better to be free than to be a slave.
******* | And I believe it is better to know than to be ignorant."
for secure mail info) --H.L. Mencken (1880-1956)