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Well, I could mostly repeat what I've said before, and it'd be true all over
again, so I won't. The _fact_ is that you're willing to drive dangerously in response to someone that upsets you. That is known as road rage around here. Fine, go right ahead. Meanwhile, you lose - you admit to doing dangerous stuff, on purpose, in response to your emotions. IOW, you're the problem. DPH On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:29:55 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >Dave Head wrote: > >> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:36 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >> >> >>>Dave Head wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:49:06 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Dave Head wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:52:20 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dave Head wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:29:05 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Dave Head wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:20:28 -0800, Scott en Aztlán > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>All you MFFYs had better watch who you **** over - sometimes the >>>>>>>>>>>victims fight back... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2004/1...cle_355455.php >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA – An encounter in traffic - possibly a lane >>>>>>>>>>>change that offended somebody - led to a pickup-to-pickup shouting >>>>>>>>>>>match and then a fatal stabbing, officials said Thursday in announcing >>>>>>>>>>>the arrest of the man who they say wielded the weapon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Well, the website has a registration requirement, so I won't be reading it >>>>>>>>>>directly, but... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"possibly a lane change that offended somebody" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bingo! What've I been saying? Yeah, that its dangerous out there, and you can >>>>>>>>>>**** somebody off _way_ more easy _jumping_ in front of 'em than simply _being_ >>>>>>>>>>in front of 'em... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>But y'all just go right ahead, jumping in the right lane because of some >>>>>>>>>>anachronistic idea, and then jumping out in the left lane when people are >>>>>>>>>>approaching from the rear in case they might be ducklings... and see if you get >>>>>>>>>>attacked like this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>DPH >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Why in the world would you "jump out into the left lane when people are >>>>>>>>>approaching from the rear?" That's the LAST thing one should think to >>>>>>>>>do in that situation! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Exactly! But there's folks here that think I'm "inattentive" if I don't notice >>>>>>>>these people coming from the rear, and act to prevent them from becoming a >>>>>>>>duckling on my left rear while I'm in the right lane. Hey, you figger it >>>>>>>>out... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If they aren't actually beside you, what's the problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>They are. They (sometimes) slow down when they get to me, and take up a >>>>>>position on my left rear quarter panel. Some here think I should jump out in >>>>>>front of them to block them from doing that. Not gonna happen. Of course, >>>>>>I'm supposed to be clairvoyant to be able to tell which approaching cars are >>>>>>going to become ducks, and which aren't. Uh huh... >>>>> >>>>>I don't really have this problem on anything resembling a regular basis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>You really have absolutely no clue how to drive, do you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sure I do. I don't do that... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, you don't (have a clue that is.) You wouldn't admit to cruising in >>>>>>>the left lane if you did. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Here we go again... >>>>>> >>>>>>Try to ditch the mantra for once and see if _you_ can figure out what to do >>>>>>about the ducklings approaching from the left rear, before you know they are >>>>>>ducklings. I have my solution. Other solutions I've been offered do come with >>>>>>the possibility of ending in a shooting or stabbing, as they are very >>>>>>offensive. >>>>>> >>>>>>DPH >>>>> >>>>>Just accelerate slightly and cut 'em off. >>>> >>>> >>>>We can go back to the original text, then... >>>> >>>>"An encounter in traffic - possibly a lane >>>>change that offended somebody - led to a pickup-to-pickup shouting >>>>match and then a fatal stabbing," >>>> >>>>Cutting people off, no matter how you do it, risks this sort of outcome. It >>>>****es people off. >>>> >>>>Plus, this "accelerate" element make one into radar fodder if one is very close >>>>to the limit of tolerance, about 10 over the posted limit most places. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>If they're in the left lane >>>>>and not passing, they deserve whatever they get. >>>> >>>> >>>>They may have passed you, you don't know 'til they get there and maybe slow >>>>down on your rear bumper and sit. >>> >>>I have no choice but to ASSume that they're going to drive in a correct >>>manner, until they show otherwise. >> >> >> Exactly. So he slows down on your rear, and... you get to be radar fodder, to >> get far enough ahead to do a lane change with 2 seconds behind you, so as not >> to present him with too little following distance. And, now that he's on your >> bumper and you _know_ he's a duck, you _also_ know that a 3 or 4 mph speedup >> will be answered with a 3 or 4 mph speedup on his part, since he's a duckling. >> And, while all this is going on, you're getting dangerously close to the car in >> front of you. >> >> Still unworkable. You're not having much luck with this, are you? >> > >I have lots of luck with it. Instead of speeding up "3 or 4 MPH" I >stick my foot in it. I move over as soon as my rear bumper is clear of >his front. > >> >>>To proactively block a driver that >>>has given no sign of not passing would be very assaholic. >> >> >> Uh huh... > >Yes, it's true! You're an asshole! > >> >> >>>>So, its MFFY, I think that's called... welcome aboard! >>>> >>> >>>not the same way you do it, at all. >> >> >> No, its a different way, but its the same result - you screw 'em anyway, as you >> stated below. >> > >I screw *THE ASSHOLE* (and not even really that; he doesn't have to take >any evasive action at all, he might just be a little miffed that I dared >to invade his buffer zone, just like he did to me) not some random guy >in the left lane that may be actually wanting to pass. > >> >>>>>If they get ****ed, >>>>>**** 'em. >>>> >>>> >>>>Return to the original text... >>>> >>>>And, anyway, you screw 'em your way, I'll screw 'em my way... >>> >>>See, here's the thing. I have no problem screwing over someone driving >>>like an asshole. >> >> >> You're stated method above either cuts off the guy, or gets you set up for a >> big fat speeding ticket, or both... not to mention maybe taking you >> dangerously close to the car in front that you're about to pass. Gonna get >> within 2 seconds of it? Then you've got _lots_ of room and there's virtually >> no congestion on your road. Most people here say they don't drive anyplace >> like that. > >So I cut him off. Who cares? He's the one not passing in the passing >lane. I'll be away from him in seconds anyway, it's not like I'm going >to hang out in front of him at his speed. > >> >> >>>You have no problem screwing over someone driving. >>>There's a big difference. >> >> >> Yeah - the difference is your antics are liable to get you stabbed, shot, and >> arrested for those _plus_ speeding and maybe reckless driving. Not _that's_ >> _really_ being an asshole, if you ask me... even if you didn't ask me... >> > >I could not possibly care any less about your opinion. > >> >>>Look at it this way - sooner or later you're >>>going to be in a situation on the road where to get out of a clot of >>>traffic, you're going to have to **** someone off. >> >> >> Sure, but you can minimize it. And of course the statement isn't even true - >> you could stop and let others continue - that wouldn't **** anyone off - but >> its not very practical, either. > >Yes, you can minimize it, by driving in a safe, predictable manner. >Like, say, keeping right except to pass. > >> >> >>>I *ALWAYS* make sure >>>that that person is the one who's driving incorrectly. >> >> >> Not if you're cutting him off, or accelerating wildly, or getting too close to >> the car in front of you, etc. >> > >I don't get too close to the car in front of me, but again, who cares if >I accelerate hard or cut off an asshole? I don't. > >> >>>I leave lots of >>>space for people driving slow in the right lane, or passing in the left >>>lane. But I have no problem getting within a few feet of someone >>>driving slow in the left lane, if it gets me out of a clot. >> >> >> Uh huh - you're a more dangerous driver than I am, for sure. LOTS more >> dangerous. >> > >No, in the absence of others driving incorrectly, I am the most >courteous driver you'll ever meet. > >> >>>You, on the other hand, are the guy that I just cut off. >> >> >> Fine. I can handle it. Of course, you may someday get a Jeep Cherokee up your >> tailpipe if something goes wrong, but that's the chance you take. > >Yes, it is. But the funny thing is, most people won't deliberately >accelerate into the back of your car. Odd, that. > >> >> _I'm_ not taking that chance. Once again, the offered methodology is _far_ >> more dangerous than anything I'm doing, plus would get a person set up for a >> big fat traffic ticket. Who's techically correct just doesn't matter one damn >> bit of you're pumping your last pint of red into the ditch. Its probably why >> I'm in the real near vicinity of having driven about 1.5 million miles without >> bleeding all over the highway... > >Blood and gore film propaganda. Properly done, what I do is no more >dangerous than getting out of bed in the AM. Your mythical "duckling" >(which I have seen maybe once or twice this year - IME a LLB can 99.99% >of the time be spotted from far away) is only close to my car long >enough for me to accelerate away - a second or less. You on the other >hand admit to cruising in the left lane (while claiming that you do so >to prevent yourself from getting trapped behind all the other assholes >that drive just like you) - who's doing more to enrage the average driver? > >> >> >>>>>It's not my problem they can't be arsed to drive like a >>>>>reasonable person. >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, so far the "solutions" offered instead of the one I use are all >>>>unworkable, being at risk of a confrontation with unpredictable eventualities, >>>>or designed to get one a speeding ticket, or worse, or both. >>>> >>>>OK, the next Einstein may give it a try. You just failed. >>> >>>Whatever you say. You still need remedial driving lessons. >> >> >> You need to keep from increasing the level of risk on the highway. You most >> certainly do increase it as you have described above. >> > >A statement that applies FAR more so to yourself, and others of your >ilk. I rarely engage in such behavior, I was only explaining the >technique to you so you could get over your irrational fear of the right >lane and stop being the driver you complain about so much. > >nate |
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Well, I could mostly repeat what I've said before, and it'd be true all over
again, so I won't. The _fact_ is that you're willing to drive dangerously in response to someone that upsets you. That is known as road rage around here. Fine, go right ahead. Meanwhile, you lose - you admit to doing dangerous stuff, on purpose, in response to your emotions. IOW, you're the problem. DPH On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 20:29:55 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >Dave Head wrote: > >> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 19:44:36 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >> >> >>>Dave Head wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 18:49:06 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Dave Head wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:52:20 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Dave Head wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 16:29:05 -0500, Nate Nagel > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Dave Head wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 09:20:28 -0800, Scott en Aztlán > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>All you MFFYs had better watch who you **** over - sometimes the >>>>>>>>>>>victims fight back... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.ocregister.com/ocr/2004/1...cle_355455.php >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA – An encounter in traffic - possibly a lane >>>>>>>>>>>change that offended somebody - led to a pickup-to-pickup shouting >>>>>>>>>>>match and then a fatal stabbing, officials said Thursday in announcing >>>>>>>>>>>the arrest of the man who they say wielded the weapon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Well, the website has a registration requirement, so I won't be reading it >>>>>>>>>>directly, but... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>"possibly a lane change that offended somebody" >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Bingo! What've I been saying? Yeah, that its dangerous out there, and you can >>>>>>>>>>**** somebody off _way_ more easy _jumping_ in front of 'em than simply _being_ >>>>>>>>>>in front of 'em... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>But y'all just go right ahead, jumping in the right lane because of some >>>>>>>>>>anachronistic idea, and then jumping out in the left lane when people are >>>>>>>>>>approaching from the rear in case they might be ducklings... and see if you get >>>>>>>>>>attacked like this. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>DPH >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Why in the world would you "jump out into the left lane when people are >>>>>>>>>approaching from the rear?" That's the LAST thing one should think to >>>>>>>>>do in that situation! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Exactly! But there's folks here that think I'm "inattentive" if I don't notice >>>>>>>>these people coming from the rear, and act to prevent them from becoming a >>>>>>>>duckling on my left rear while I'm in the right lane. Hey, you figger it >>>>>>>>out... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>If they aren't actually beside you, what's the problem? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>They are. They (sometimes) slow down when they get to me, and take up a >>>>>>position on my left rear quarter panel. Some here think I should jump out in >>>>>>front of them to block them from doing that. Not gonna happen. Of course, >>>>>>I'm supposed to be clairvoyant to be able to tell which approaching cars are >>>>>>going to become ducks, and which aren't. Uh huh... >>>>> >>>>>I don't really have this problem on anything resembling a regular basis. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>You really have absolutely no clue how to drive, do you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sure I do. I don't do that... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, you don't (have a clue that is.) You wouldn't admit to cruising in >>>>>>>the left lane if you did. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Here we go again... >>>>>> >>>>>>Try to ditch the mantra for once and see if _you_ can figure out what to do >>>>>>about the ducklings approaching from the left rear, before you know they are >>>>>>ducklings. I have my solution. Other solutions I've been offered do come with >>>>>>the possibility of ending in a shooting or stabbing, as they are very >>>>>>offensive. >>>>>> >>>>>>DPH >>>>> >>>>>Just accelerate slightly and cut 'em off. >>>> >>>> >>>>We can go back to the original text, then... >>>> >>>>"An encounter in traffic - possibly a lane >>>>change that offended somebody - led to a pickup-to-pickup shouting >>>>match and then a fatal stabbing," >>>> >>>>Cutting people off, no matter how you do it, risks this sort of outcome. It >>>>****es people off. >>>> >>>>Plus, this "accelerate" element make one into radar fodder if one is very close >>>>to the limit of tolerance, about 10 over the posted limit most places. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>If they're in the left lane >>>>>and not passing, they deserve whatever they get. >>>> >>>> >>>>They may have passed you, you don't know 'til they get there and maybe slow >>>>down on your rear bumper and sit. >>> >>>I have no choice but to ASSume that they're going to drive in a correct >>>manner, until they show otherwise. >> >> >> Exactly. So he slows down on your rear, and... you get to be radar fodder, to >> get far enough ahead to do a lane change with 2 seconds behind you, so as not >> to present him with too little following distance. And, now that he's on your >> bumper and you _know_ he's a duck, you _also_ know that a 3 or 4 mph speedup >> will be answered with a 3 or 4 mph speedup on his part, since he's a duckling. >> And, while all this is going on, you're getting dangerously close to the car in >> front of you. >> >> Still unworkable. You're not having much luck with this, are you? >> > >I have lots of luck with it. Instead of speeding up "3 or 4 MPH" I >stick my foot in it. I move over as soon as my rear bumper is clear of >his front. > >> >>>To proactively block a driver that >>>has given no sign of not passing would be very assaholic. >> >> >> Uh huh... > >Yes, it's true! You're an asshole! > >> >> >>>>So, its MFFY, I think that's called... welcome aboard! >>>> >>> >>>not the same way you do it, at all. >> >> >> No, its a different way, but its the same result - you screw 'em anyway, as you >> stated below. >> > >I screw *THE ASSHOLE* (and not even really that; he doesn't have to take >any evasive action at all, he might just be a little miffed that I dared >to invade his buffer zone, just like he did to me) not some random guy >in the left lane that may be actually wanting to pass. > >> >>>>>If they get ****ed, >>>>>**** 'em. >>>> >>>> >>>>Return to the original text... >>>> >>>>And, anyway, you screw 'em your way, I'll screw 'em my way... >>> >>>See, here's the thing. I have no problem screwing over someone driving >>>like an asshole. >> >> >> You're stated method above either cuts off the guy, or gets you set up for a >> big fat speeding ticket, or both... not to mention maybe taking you >> dangerously close to the car in front that you're about to pass. Gonna get >> within 2 seconds of it? Then you've got _lots_ of room and there's virtually >> no congestion on your road. Most people here say they don't drive anyplace >> like that. > >So I cut him off. Who cares? He's the one not passing in the passing >lane. I'll be away from him in seconds anyway, it's not like I'm going >to hang out in front of him at his speed. > >> >> >>>You have no problem screwing over someone driving. >>>There's a big difference. >> >> >> Yeah - the difference is your antics are liable to get you stabbed, shot, and >> arrested for those _plus_ speeding and maybe reckless driving. Not _that's_ >> _really_ being an asshole, if you ask me... even if you didn't ask me... >> > >I could not possibly care any less about your opinion. > >> >>>Look at it this way - sooner or later you're >>>going to be in a situation on the road where to get out of a clot of >>>traffic, you're going to have to **** someone off. >> >> >> Sure, but you can minimize it. And of course the statement isn't even true - >> you could stop and let others continue - that wouldn't **** anyone off - but >> its not very practical, either. > >Yes, you can minimize it, by driving in a safe, predictable manner. >Like, say, keeping right except to pass. > >> >> >>>I *ALWAYS* make sure >>>that that person is the one who's driving incorrectly. >> >> >> Not if you're cutting him off, or accelerating wildly, or getting too close to >> the car in front of you, etc. >> > >I don't get too close to the car in front of me, but again, who cares if >I accelerate hard or cut off an asshole? I don't. > >> >>>I leave lots of >>>space for people driving slow in the right lane, or passing in the left >>>lane. But I have no problem getting within a few feet of someone >>>driving slow in the left lane, if it gets me out of a clot. >> >> >> Uh huh - you're a more dangerous driver than I am, for sure. LOTS more >> dangerous. >> > >No, in the absence of others driving incorrectly, I am the most >courteous driver you'll ever meet. > >> >>>You, on the other hand, are the guy that I just cut off. >> >> >> Fine. I can handle it. Of course, you may someday get a Jeep Cherokee up your >> tailpipe if something goes wrong, but that's the chance you take. > >Yes, it is. But the funny thing is, most people won't deliberately >accelerate into the back of your car. Odd, that. > >> >> _I'm_ not taking that chance. Once again, the offered methodology is _far_ >> more dangerous than anything I'm doing, plus would get a person set up for a >> big fat traffic ticket. Who's techically correct just doesn't matter one damn >> bit of you're pumping your last pint of red into the ditch. Its probably why >> I'm in the real near vicinity of having driven about 1.5 million miles without >> bleeding all over the highway... > >Blood and gore film propaganda. Properly done, what I do is no more >dangerous than getting out of bed in the AM. Your mythical "duckling" >(which I have seen maybe once or twice this year - IME a LLB can 99.99% >of the time be spotted from far away) is only close to my car long >enough for me to accelerate away - a second or less. You on the other >hand admit to cruising in the left lane (while claiming that you do so >to prevent yourself from getting trapped behind all the other assholes >that drive just like you) - who's doing more to enrage the average driver? > >> >> >>>>>It's not my problem they can't be arsed to drive like a >>>>>reasonable person. >>>> >>>> >>>>Yes, so far the "solutions" offered instead of the one I use are all >>>>unworkable, being at risk of a confrontation with unpredictable eventualities, >>>>or designed to get one a speeding ticket, or worse, or both. >>>> >>>>OK, the next Einstein may give it a try. You just failed. >>> >>>Whatever you say. You still need remedial driving lessons. >> >> >> You need to keep from increasing the level of risk on the highway. You most >> certainly do increase it as you have described above. >> > >A statement that applies FAR more so to yourself, and others of your >ilk. I rarely engage in such behavior, I was only explaining the >technique to you so you could get over your irrational fear of the right >lane and stop being the driver you complain about so much. > >nate |
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Dave Head wrote:
> Well, I could mostly repeat what I've said before, and it'd be true all over > again, so I won't. > > The _fact_ is that you're willing to drive dangerously in response to someone > that upsets you. That is known as road rage around here. Fine, go right > ahead. Meanwhile, you lose - you admit to doing dangerous stuff, on purpose, > in response to your emotions. > > IOW, you're the problem. > pot, meet kettle. Kettle, pot. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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Dave Head wrote:
> Well, I could mostly repeat what I've said before, and it'd be true all over > again, so I won't. > > The _fact_ is that you're willing to drive dangerously in response to someone > that upsets you. That is known as road rage around here. Fine, go right > ahead. Meanwhile, you lose - you admit to doing dangerous stuff, on purpose, > in response to your emotions. > > IOW, you're the problem. > pot, meet kettle. Kettle, pot. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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Dave Head wrote:
> Exactly! But there's folks here that think I'm "inattentive" if I don't notice > these people coming from the rear, and act to prevent them from becoming a > duckling on my left rear while I'm in the right lane. Hey, you figger it > out... Cite? (Or URL, as you prefer.) -- This account is subject to a persistent MS Blaster and SWEN attack. I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me and it bounces, a second try might work. However, please reply in newsgroup. |
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Dave Head wrote:
> Exactly! But there's folks here that think I'm "inattentive" if I don't notice > these people coming from the rear, and act to prevent them from becoming a > duckling on my left rear while I'm in the right lane. Hey, you figger it > out... Cite? (Or URL, as you prefer.) -- This account is subject to a persistent MS Blaster and SWEN attack. I think I've got the problem resolved, but, if you E-mail me and it bounces, a second try might work. However, please reply in newsgroup. |
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