Is my battery shot?

I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery so
dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
can come back from that.

Greg did pass the time by typing:
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery so
> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.

You can but try. Be aware that if you use a battery charger it
may tripp several times till the battery starts taking a charge.


--
DougW

Might as well give it a shot. There is a good chance it is toast
but........ To recover it needs to have a heavy amp charge to get the
plates properly formed and then a slow charge to top it off. Around here
we have serval places one of which is "Batteries Plus" that will put the
battery on a fancy tester and see what it looks like. The tester will
put a preliminary charge on it when it's really dead like yours, then
run some load tests. It even has a thermocouple to check the battery
temp and compensate for temp.

I generally figure on 4 years for battery life, anything more than that
is gravy. I'd rather run on the first portion of battery life rather
than the last where I need to worry about it. So if the battery is 4
years or more old and it gives me any trouble, out it goes. Yours should
have some markings on it, it should have been sold with a warranty.

I've been getting an oversized battery with 870 cold Crank (0 degrees)
for about $60 or so. Works for me.

Greg wrote:
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery so
> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.
>
>

You can only try. Some bounce right back, some never come back.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery so
> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.

Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on Optima
red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?

"Greg" > wrote in message
news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.
>

I think they are a total waste of double the money. Logging road
vibrations will still kill them just like regular batteries and they
have a short warranty.

Canadian Tire now sells the spiral cell batteries, I would be checking
those out for the warranty if nothing else. The spiral cells are nice
if you aren't rubber side down, they have no acid to spill so you can
still winch yourself back over.

Oh, if you cut the label on your battery, you should still be able to
open the top to top up the water for the charge if needed. A deep
discharge/charge can use up water.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Greg wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on Optima
> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>
> "Greg" > wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> > can come back from that.
> >

I was just over at Can Tire looking at those, but they are marine
batteries, any idea what the difference is?

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
...
>I think they are a total waste of double the money. Logging road
> vibrations will still kill them just like regular batteries and they
> have a short warranty.
>
> Canadian Tire now sells the spiral cell batteries, I would be checking
> those out for the warranty if nothing else. The spiral cells are nice
> if you aren't rubber side down, they have no acid to spill so you can
> still winch yourself back over.
>
> Oh, if you cut the label on your battery, you should still be able to
> open the top to top up the water for the charge if needed. A deep
> discharge/charge can use up water.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Greg wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
>> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on
>> Optima
>> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>>
>> "Greg" > wrote in message
>> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
>> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
>> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights,
>> > battery
>> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights.
>> > So
>> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of
>> > those
>> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
>> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
>> > that
>> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
>> > battery
>> > can come back from that.
>> >

http://www.optimabatteries.com/publi...fo/marine.html
http://www.dcbattery.com/faq.html
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http://www.billhughes.com/

Greg wrote:
>
> I was just over at Can Tire looking at those, but they are marine
> batteries, any idea what the difference is?

Putting a small charger on a fully discharged battery generally won't
work. You need to hit it with a big charger (50 amp range) for a few
minutes to get it started. THEN use a small charger.

Greg wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on Optima
> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>
> "Greg" > wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
>
>> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
>>wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
>>so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
>>question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
>>ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
>>charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
>>dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
>>can come back from that.
>>
>
>
>

Look at this one
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...=1109595476940


if the link doesn't work it is the Orbital Cycle Extreme-Duty Battery
Product# 10-3499-2 Price $179.99

NOT this one
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortmen...=1109595476944

Nautilus Deep Cycle Battery Product# 10-3490-0

Snow...


"Greg" > wrote in message
news:ihsUd.520542$Xk.345687@pd7tw3no...
> I was just over at Can Tire looking at those, but they are marine
> batteries, any idea what the difference is?
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I think they are a total waste of double the money. Logging road
>> vibrations will still kill them just like regular batteries and they
>> have a short warranty.
>>
>> Canadian Tire now sells the spiral cell batteries, I would be checking
>> those out for the warranty if nothing else. The spiral cells are nice
>> if you aren't rubber side down, they have no acid to spill so you can
>> still winch yourself back over.
>>
>> Oh, if you cut the label on your battery, you should still be able to
>> open the top to top up the water for the charge if needed. A deep
>> discharge/charge can use up water.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
>>> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on
>>> Optima
>>> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>>>
>>> "Greg" > wrote in message
>>> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
>>> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
>>> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights,
>>> > battery
>>> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights.
>>> > So
>>> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of
>>> > those
>>> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying
>>> > to
>>> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
>>> > that
>>> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
>>> > battery
>>> > can come back from that.
>>> >
>
>