Anyone thinking of buying Dodge..........check this first

Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor does
DC serve lemonade.



rob wrote:

>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners manual.
>that's seems to help.
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>"justme" > wrote in message
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>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
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Hi Group,

I have had Dodges, Plymouths, and Chryslers most of my adult life since
my first car in 1974, a slant 6, 1971 Duster.

This whole thing is a mixed bag, and expecting Mercedes quality for Dodge
prices is not realistic. I do however feel that consumable items like
windshield wiper blades, brake rotors, and brake pads, tires, etc. SHOULD
NOT last longer than items like Serpentine belt tensioners, and rear
hydraulic brake cylinders. These items are not in mother mopars PM schedule
either, so following that alone leads to unexpected failures.

I have heard from other well meaning folk on this group to check this or
that frequently because if you don't problems will likely follow. I agree
whole heartedly. I also disagree with some of you in that if you really need
to check the Serpentine belt tensioner and pulley alignment every oil
change, then that should be stated in the owners PM guide. If you really
need to check for brake fluid seepage every 3 months (rear drum brakes) then
that should be in the owners PM guide. Sure they cannot cover everything,
and admitting there is a problem might have legal consequences.

For the first time in 30 years I just bought a Toyota. It's kind of sad to
put 3 decades of mopar enthusiast in me to rest. I'm still partial to
mopar's, and have two 1999's. When these reach the "end of life" I will
certainly reconsider my choice again. I leave the door open. The "grass
ain't always greener" when switching to brand X.

Regards,
Jim


"RWM" > wrote in message ...
> Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor does
> DC serve lemonade.
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>
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> rob wrote:
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>>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners manual.
>>that's seems to help.
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>>"justme" > wrote in message
roups.com...
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>>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
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>>>

Not at all. Based on first hand experience with two DC purchases, the last.



rob wrote:
> still trolling i see
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> "RWM" > wrote in message ...
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>>Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor does
>>DC serve lemonade.
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>>rob wrote:
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>>>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners manual.
>>>that's seems to help.
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>>>"justme" > wrote in message
groups.com...
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>>>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/

68, 71, 80, 84, 86, 89, 90, 94..........no problems I didn't create on my
own.....



"RWM" > wrote in message
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> Not at all. Based on first hand experience with two DC purchases, the
last.
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> rob wrote:
> > still trolling i see
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> >
> > "RWM" > wrote in message
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> >>Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor does
> >>DC serve lemonade.
> >>
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> >>rob wrote:
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> >>>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners manual.
> >>>that's seems to help.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"justme" > wrote in message
> groups.com...
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> >>>
> >>>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/

and 30,000 ford trucks caught fire in the ignition switch, and the crown
vics have gas tank fire problems and the cops hate them for the damn anti
lock brakes causing accidents, and GM is recalling half of what they own,
and people threatened to sue in the 70s over air bags in fords, and the
pinto was a rolling rear end bomb, and the corvair kept blowing plugs out of
the aluminum heads, and the Hudson was a huge lead sled, and Mr. tucker
couldn't produce as many tuckers as he claimed or say the say.....yep uh
huh......got any more?




"justme" > wrote in message
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> Not only does Dodge sell junk........they are killing people
> Latest Gen3 Unlatching Claims Two Lives
> DaimlerChrysler Denies Safety Problems
> DaimlerChrysler has started a vigorous public relations campaign to
> deny safety problems with the Gen3 seat belt buckle. Furthermore, they
> have begun issuing a statement to the media that the GEN3 "passes all
> federal safety standards." But federal regulations require that seat
> belt buckles "be designed to minimize the possibility of accidental
> release," and the Gen-3 buckle does not minimize the possibility of
> accidental release
>
>
> Two women were killed and a child seriously injured in a roll-over
> accident Dec. 28, 2002, near Beeville, Texas. This brings the total
> number of deaths to 17 and serious injuries to 27 in accidents in which
> Gen3 buckles are believed to have unlatched.
>
> http://www.unsafebelts.com/
>

How careless of you.

'96, '98 -- no problems DC didn't create in sourcing or assembly.



rob wrote:

>68, 71, 80, 84, 86, 89, 90, 94..........no problems I didn't create on my
>own.....
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>"RWM" > wrote in message
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>>Not at all. Based on first hand experience with two DC purchases, the
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>last.
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>>rob wrote:
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>>>still trolling i see
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>>>"RWM" > wrote in message
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>>>>Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor does
>>>>DC serve lemonade.
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>>>>rob wrote:
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>>>>>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners manual.
>>>>>that's seems to help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"justme" > wrote in message
legroups.com...
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>>>>>
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>>>>>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
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ho hum................



"RWM" > wrote in message ...
> How careless of you.
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> '96, '98 -- no problems DC didn't create in sourcing or assembly.
>
>
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> rob wrote:
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> >68, 71, 80, 84, 86, 89, 90, 94..........no problems I didn't create on my
> >own.....
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> >
> >
> >"RWM" > wrote in message
> ...
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> >>Not at all. Based on first hand experience with two DC purchases, the
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> >last.
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> >>rob wrote:
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> >>>still trolling i see
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"RWM" > wrote in message
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> >>>
> ...
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> >
> >>>>Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor
does
> >>>>DC serve lemonade.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>rob wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners
manual.
> >>>>>that's seems to help.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"justme" > wrote in message
> legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
> >>>>>>

Yep, more satisfied customers. Remind me, where is "replace serpentine
belt tensioner" on the factory maintenance schedule?


">what is the best wat to remove the serpentine belt tensioner ? The
>> tensioner (not the pully the spring part) broke as I started it sun.
>> nothing seems lock up all pullys turn freely, AC was not on.
>> 99 caravan 3.3

>You were probably getting a rumbling noise mostly in the morning
before >this happened. That's the normal sign that the tensioner is
locked up.





rob wrote:
> ho hum................
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> "RWM" > wrote in message ...
>
>>How careless of you.
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>>'96, '98 -- no problems DC didn't create in sourcing or assembly.
>>
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>>rob wrote:
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>>>68, 71, 80, 84, 86, 89, 90, 94..........no problems I didn't create on my
>>>own.....
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>>>"RWM" > wrote in message
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>>>>Not at all. Based on first hand experience with two DC purchases, the
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>>>last.
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>>>>rob wrote:
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>>>>>still trolling i see
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>>>>>"RWM" > wrote in message
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>>>>>>Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor
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> does
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>>>>>>DC serve lemonade.
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>>>>>>rob wrote:
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>>>>>>>or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners
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> manual.
>
>>>>>>>that's seems to help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"justme" > wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
>>>>>>>>

still trolling i see


"RWM" > wrote in message ...
> Service on the recommended schedule doesn't do much for lemons, nor does
> DC serve lemonade.
>
>
>
> rob wrote:
>
> >or just service your vehicle like it says to do in your owners manual.
> >that's seems to help.
> >
> >
> >
> >"justme" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >
> >
> >>http://www.daimlerchryslervehicleproblems.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>

"RWM" > wrote in message
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> Yep, more satisfied customers. Remind me, where is "replace serpentine
> belt tensioner" on the factory maintenance schedule?

And show me were it is written that mechanical pieces are indestructible,
never were out, etc. TROLL! Do you own a chrysler still? If not go troll in
a group that will appreciate a nut bar! alt.miserable.troll.whohasnolife