Performance chips

I remember a thread here a while back about these chips. I didn't
follow it that closely because at the time I wasn't considering one, but
I do remember it said that the cheapies were worthless, and that there
wasn't any use installing a good one with a stock motor.
Recently, an acquaintance told me that he installed one in his 6
cylinder Mustang and he could definitely feel the difference. He said
the installer told him it added 45 horsepower. Is he just blowing
smoke, or possibly just the power of suggestion after being told about
the extra horsepower? Or is there a chip out there that will really
help a stock V6?
I wouldn't have a problem kicking out the money for a good one if it
would really make a difference.

'98 Mustang - 3.8 - 5 Speed

I agree with Joe. Stock V6 or even near-stock V6... 45 horsepower my *ass*.
I want to see a dyno sheet proving it. You aren't really going to get much
performance from a chip on a stock N/A vehicle =(. Could go for some
gears... or even upgrade the suspension..

-Mike

--
A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
Cold air intake
FRPP 3.73 gears
Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
Hi-speed fan switch
255/60R-15 rear tires
Subframe connectors
Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant


"Sunset Sam" > wrote in message
...
> I remember a thread here a while back about these chips. I didn't
> follow it that closely because at the time I wasn't considering one, but
> I do remember it said that the cheapies were worthless, and that there
> wasn't any use installing a good one with a stock motor.
> Recently, an acquaintance told me that he installed one in his 6
> cylinder Mustang and he could definitely feel the difference. He said
> the installer told him it added 45 horsepower. Is he just blowing
> smoke, or possibly just the power of suggestion after being told about
> the extra horsepower? Or is there a chip out there that will really
> help a stock V6?
> I wouldn't have a problem kicking out the money for a good one if it
> would really make a difference.
>
> '98 Mustang - 3.8 - 5 Speed
>

On top of which, any decent chip SHOULD be tuned using a datalogger along
with a dyno.. Just burning a stock program into one is next to worthless.
Stock program basically only advances the timing (usually a safe amount),
kills or resets the rev limiter and recals the speedo for gears. Does
nothing for the A/F...
I personally like the SCT multiple bank chip.
45hp on a V6 with no other mods... blowing the whole BBQ up his a$$....
MAYBE 4 to 5rwhp!!!
Hell.... you'd need a good programmer to gain more than 25rwhp from a stock
V8 .. umm 4.6 2V anyway.. and that would be with max timing advance running
94+ octane.

--
Jafo
'02 GT Black
Not eggzackly stock.

> wrote in message
. com...
> I agree with Joe. Stock V6 or even near-stock V6... 45 horsepower my
*ass*.
> I want to see a dyno sheet proving it. You aren't really going to get much
> performance from a chip on a stock N/A vehicle =(. Could go for some
> gears... or even upgrade the suspension..
>
> -Mike
>
> --
> A happy kid behind the wheel of a 98 Mustang GT
> Cold air intake
> FRPP 3.73 gears
> Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter
> Flowmaster 40 Series mufflers (self-installed woohoo)
> Hi-speed fan switch
> 255/60R-15 rear tires
> Subframe connectors
> Aluminum adjustable clutch quadrant
>
>
> "Sunset Sam" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I remember a thread here a while back about these chips. I didn't
> > follow it that closely because at the time I wasn't considering one, but
> > I do remember it said that the cheapies were worthless, and that there
> > wasn't any use installing a good one with a stock motor.
> > Recently, an acquaintance told me that he installed one in his 6
> > cylinder Mustang and he could definitely feel the difference. He said
> > the installer told him it added 45 horsepower. Is he just blowing
> > smoke, or possibly just the power of suggestion after being told about
> > the extra horsepower? Or is there a chip out there that will really
> > help a stock V6?
> > I wouldn't have a problem kicking out the money for a good one if it
> > would really make a difference.
> >
> > '98 Mustang - 3.8 - 5 Speed
> >
>
>

Thank you all for confirming what you already told me, lol! I guess I
just had to get it reaffirmed after this guy telling me different. Once
you buy a certain vehicle you start talking to different people with
similar vehicles and hear all kinds of things.
In the past I also noticed after I'd buy a vehicle I'd then notice how
many other similar vehicles there were on the road. Didn't happen that
way with this Mustang tho because I was already noticing every Mustang
before I even bought this one!

Wrote:
>I agree with Joe. Stock V6 or even near-stock
>V6... 45 horsepower my *ass*. I want to see a
>dyno sheet proving it. You aren't really going to
>get much performance from a chip on a stock
>N/A vehicle =(. Could go for some gears... or
>even upgrade the suspension..
>-Mike
What would you suggest for gears on my car? If my info is correct I
currently have a 2.73 rear end.

'98 Mustang - 3.8 - 5 Speed

(Jafo) Wrote:
>Hell.... you'd need a good programmer to gain
>more than 25rwhp from a stock V8 .. umm 4.6
>2V anyway.. and that would be with max timing
>advance running 94+ octane.
My book calls for 87 octane fuel. Are there any benefits in me running
a higher octane? Will it hurt? Not my daily driver so the cost doesn't
matter to me.
Are there any brands that you all swear by? Are there any that you
swear against?!!!

'98 Mustang - 3.8 - 5 Speed

(Jafo) Wrote:
>Now that I think of it "4 tuh 5" could sound like
>"forty five", depending on what part of the
>country ya'll live in.. at...to...
"4 tuh 5", Ha, that's a good one! SE Missouri here so that is a
possibility. I'm going to remember that if I ever talk to this guy
again. "You know, maybe you misunderstood your installer when he said
45hp increase, and he actually meant..."

None that you'd notice with the V6... possibly 89 if you're getting any
pinging...

--
Jafo
'02 GT Black
Not eggzackly stock.

"Sunset Sam" > wrote in message
...
> (Jafo) Wrote:
> >Hell.... you'd need a good programmer to gain
> >more than 25rwhp from a stock V8 .. umm 4.6
> >2V anyway.. and that would be with max timing
> >advance running 94+ octane.
> My book calls for 87 octane fuel. Are there any benefits in me running
> a higher octane? Will it hurt? Not my daily driver so the cost doesn't
> matter to me.
> Are there any brands that you all swear by? Are there any that you
> swear against?!!!
>
> '98 Mustang - 3.8 - 5 Speed
>