Freeze 12 in Chevy Blazer

On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:34:32 -0400, "\"Doc\"" > wrote:

>
>New compressors are half that amount, remans even less.
>
>Doc


Remans are crap in general. The compressor in his vehicle does not
rebuild well at all... Generally one of these rebuilt last one season
if you are lucky.

The factory part was over $400 when I bought one two years ago.
Prices could be a little higher or lower but I would expect it to
still be in the same range.

Steve B.

Hey Doc!
These guys don't know anything about wholesale, and still frequent the
dealers and the corner parts store. Now about we sell them a seminar on how
to make money and save the customer half on the part. While still making
money!

Ciao!

Refinish King


""Doc"" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working.
I
> can
> > >hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of
> > >adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to
> > >retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this?
> > >
> > You should not mix refrigerants. If you want to change types the
> > system needs to be evacuated and then recharged with the correct
> > amount of new refrigerant.
> >
> > In this case if the compressor still clicks on but you get no cooling
> > it could very easily be any number of problems. I would have a pro
> > check out the system and tell you whats wrong even if you decide not
> > to have them fix it.
> >
> > You can kill your compressor pretty easy and a new one is going to
> > cost you around $450 just for the part. Better to have a good
> > diagnosis before you try anything.
> >
> > Steve B.
>
> New compressors are half that amount, remans even less.
>
> Doc
>
>
>

Hey Doc!
These guys don't know anything about wholesale, and still frequent the
dealers and the corner parts store. Now about we sell them a seminar on how
to make money and save the customer half on the part. While still making
money!

Ciao!

Refinish King


""Doc"" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working.
I
> can
> > >hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of
> > >adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to
> > >retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this?
> > >
> > You should not mix refrigerants. If you want to change types the
> > system needs to be evacuated and then recharged with the correct
> > amount of new refrigerant.
> >
> > In this case if the compressor still clicks on but you get no cooling
> > it could very easily be any number of problems. I would have a pro
> > check out the system and tell you whats wrong even if you decide not
> > to have them fix it.
> >
> > You can kill your compressor pretty easy and a new one is going to
> > cost you around $450 just for the part. Better to have a good
> > diagnosis before you try anything.
> >
> > Steve B.
>
> New compressors are half that amount, remans even less.
>
> Doc
>
>
>

"Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:34:32 -0400, "\"Doc\"" > wrote:
>
> >
> >New compressors are half that amount, remans even less.
> >
> >Doc
>
>
> Remans are crap in general. The compressor in his vehicle does not
> rebuild well at all... Generally one of these rebuilt last one season
> if you are lucky.
>
> The factory part was over $400 when I bought one two years ago.
> Prices could be a little higher or lower but I would expect it to
> still be in the same range.
>

Hmm - I don't know the said compressor but if it's that DA-6 job that
GM used, I have a rebuilt one in my 84 Celebrity that I installed, and
it has lasted several seasons.

I think the rebuilds get a bad rap because since they are cheap, the
people buying them are mostly looking for a quick and fast fix to
their A/C system. So instead of doing the job right - meaning also
replacing the accumulator, expansion orifice, and flushing all tubing
in the system out, they just slap in a reman compressor. The thing
then blows up a year later after getting ruined by contaminants left
in the system.

Ted

"Steve B." <this is not my real [email protected]> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:34:32 -0400, "\"Doc\"" > wrote:
>
> >
> >New compressors are half that amount, remans even less.
> >
> >Doc
>
>
> Remans are crap in general. The compressor in his vehicle does not
> rebuild well at all... Generally one of these rebuilt last one season
> if you are lucky.
>
> The factory part was over $400 when I bought one two years ago.
> Prices could be a little higher or lower but I would expect it to
> still be in the same range.
>

Hmm - I don't know the said compressor but if it's that DA-6 job that
GM used, I have a rebuilt one in my 84 Celebrity that I installed, and
it has lasted several seasons.

I think the rebuilds get a bad rap because since they are cheap, the
people buying them are mostly looking for a quick and fast fix to
their A/C system. So instead of doing the job right - meaning also
replacing the accumulator, expansion orifice, and flushing all tubing
in the system out, they just slap in a reman compressor. The thing
then blows up a year later after getting ruined by contaminants left
in the system.

Ted

On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman" > wrote:

||The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I can
||hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of
||adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to
||retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this?

I'm surprised the compressor would kick in if it's low on refrigerant. It should
have a low pressure switch on the accumulator that cuts the clutch circuit if
the pressure drops below a certain point. So you may have another problem.
Maybe a duct mixer door is not opening.
But if you do need to add refrigerant, stay with R12. You can still buy it if
you watch the clasifieds. Even at $30/pound it's cheaper and colder than
anything you could change to, all things considered.
Texas Parts Guy

On Tue, 25 May 2004 20:45:56 -0400, "Spiderman" > wrote:

||The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I can
||hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of
||adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to
||retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this?

I'm surprised the compressor would kick in if it's low on refrigerant. It should
have a low pressure switch on the accumulator that cuts the clutch circuit if
the pressure drops below a certain point. So you may have another problem.
Maybe a duct mixer door is not opening.
But if you do need to add refrigerant, stay with R12. You can still buy it if
you watch the clasifieds. Even at $30/pound it's cheaper and colder than
anything you could change to, all things considered.
Texas Parts Guy

"Spiderman" > wrote in message
...
> The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I
can
> hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of
> adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to
> retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this?
>

NO! Don't waste your time.

Change to r134.

Freeze 12 is not compatable with r12! Freeze 12 is not compatable with
anything other than mineral oil! Freeze 12 can be used with mineral oil,
ester oil, or a mixture.

To change to Freeze 12 you have to vacumn your system to remove all the r12,
then add 3 ozs of oil, (preferablely ester) before you add the Freeze 12. If
you do change to Freeze 12 then you are stuck to doing all the work on your
AC yourself, as AC shops are not going to buy a complete set of equipment
for use with Freeze 12. An AC shop has to have a complete set of equipment
for r12 and r134 now. Why buy a set for limited use with Freeze 12?

Just convert to r134 its is cheaper, and easier to have a working system.

--
Diamond Jim
The Old Devildog

"Spiderman" > wrote in message
...
> The air conditioning on my 1989 Chevy S10 Blazer just stopped working. I
can
> hear the compressor kick in but the air blows out warm. I'm thinking of
> adding in Freeze 12 coolant since it's closer to R12 and less work to
> retrofit than R134. Has anyone tried this?
>

NO! Don't waste your time.

Change to r134.

Freeze 12 is not compatable with r12! Freeze 12 is not compatable with
anything other than mineral oil! Freeze 12 can be used with mineral oil,
ester oil, or a mixture.

To change to Freeze 12 you have to vacumn your system to remove all the r12,
then add 3 ozs of oil, (preferablely ester) before you add the Freeze 12. If
you do change to Freeze 12 then you are stuck to doing all the work on your
AC yourself, as AC shops are not going to buy a complete set of equipment
for use with Freeze 12. An AC shop has to have a complete set of equipment
for r12 and r134 now. Why buy a set for limited use with Freeze 12?

Just convert to r134 its is cheaper, and easier to have a working system.

--
Diamond Jim
The Old Devildog

> NO! Don't waste your time.
>
> Change to r134.
>
> Freeze 12 is not compatable with r12! Freeze 12 is not compatable with
> anything other than mineral oil! Freeze 12 can be used with mineral oil,
> ester oil, or a mixture.
>
> To change to Freeze 12 you have to vacumn your system to remove all the
r12,
> then add 3 ozs of oil, (preferablely ester) before you add the Freeze 12.
If
> you do change to Freeze 12 then you are stuck to doing all the work on
your
> AC yourself, as AC shops are not going to buy a complete set of equipment
> for use with Freeze 12. An AC shop has to have a complete set of equipment
> for r12 and r134 now. Why buy a set for limited use with Freeze 12?
>
> Just convert to r134 its is cheaper, and easier to have a working system.
>
> --
> Diamond Jim
> The Old Devildog
>

No! Don't waste your time!

Just get your R12 system fixed. It was built for it and it's still
available.