heater takes forever to get warm

On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 23:09:17 -0500, "Tom Del Rosso"
> wrote:

>
>Bill Vanek wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:30:26 -0600, Vic Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > I wouldn't wait, because with the 3800 on that car it could be a
>> > leaking plenum or intake gasket. Pretty common.
>> > Don't know if those would gunk the system with oil.
>>
>> And on some years, the intake leak would let coolant run onto the cam,
>> washing the oil away. You then have a round cam lobe.
>
>It has a slight leak, but the head of maintenance at the Buick dealer talked
>me out of fixing that because the car is 12 years old and he said it might
>open a can of worms.

Have you looked at the inside of the oil cap?

On 2/27/2014 10:22 PM, Steve W. wrote:
> Bill Vanek wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:30:26 -0600, Vic Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't wait, because with the 3800 on that car it could be a
>>> leaking plenum or intake gasket. Pretty common.
>>> Don't know if those would gunk the system with oil.
>>
>> And on some years, the intake leak would let coolant run onto the cam,
>> washing the oil away. You then have a round cam lobe.
>
> Another great place for plastic.... Some day's I'd love to find the
> engineer and the bean counters that made the decisions on some of these
> things...
>
> Plastic snap in coolant transfer lines, Those lovely POS heater
> connections, Plastic intake manifold, right next to the damn EGR tube,
> NAA that tube never gets that hot....
>
>
"GM Sweats the Details"

--
T0m $herm@n

On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 01:56:27 -0600, "T0m $herman"
> wrote:

>On 2/27/2014 10:22 PM, Steve W. wrote:
>> Bill Vanek wrote:
>>> On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 18:30:26 -0600, Vic Smith
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't wait, because with the 3800 on that car it could be a
>>>> leaking plenum or intake gasket. Pretty common.
>>>> Don't know if those would gunk the system with oil.
>>>
>>> And on some years, the intake leak would let coolant run onto the cam,
>>> washing the oil away. You then have a round cam lobe.
>>
>> Another great place for plastic.... Some day's I'd love to find the
>> engineer and the bean counters that made the decisions on some of these
>> things...
>>
>> Plastic snap in coolant transfer lines, Those lovely POS heater
>> connections, Plastic intake manifold, right next to the damn EGR tube,
>> NAA that tube never gets that hot....
>>
>>
>"GM Sweats the Details"

I could tell you stories...