Police crush sunbather

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/bea....ap/index.html

When I was in the military, I was taught "attention to detail." These
cops apparently forgot that principle. They're no safer than anyone
else.

"morticide" > wrote in message
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> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/bea....ap/index.html
>
> When I was in the military, I was taught "attention to detail." These
> cops apparently forgot that principle. They're no safer than anyone
> else.
>


" An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday. The officers have been placed on
paid leave pending an investigation. "

Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave

In article ews.net>, Mike T. wrote:
>
>"morticide" > wrote in message
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>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/bea....ap/index.html
>>
>> When I was in the military, I was taught "attention to detail." These
>> cops apparently forgot that principle. They're no safer than anyone
>> else.
>
>" An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday. The officers have been placed on
>paid leave pending an investigation. "
>
>Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
>PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave

A Boston police officer who raped a woman in his cruiser was
recently forced to take a year unpaid vacation. Manslaughter
gets you 45 days without pay.

--
John Carr )

Mike T. wrote:
> "morticide" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
> > http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/bea....ap/index.html
> >
> > When I was in the military, I was taught "attention to detail." These
> > cops apparently forgot that principle. They're no safer than anyone
> > else.
> >
>
>
> " An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday. The officers have been placed on
> paid leave pending an investigation. "
>
> Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
> PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave

You do understand our system of justice? Innocent until proven guilty?
Yes they are put on paid leave until the investigation etc is over and
then the penalty of whatever is applied. I guess you want everyone to
be penalized at the instant of being accused of something eh?

Harry K

In article . com>,
Harry K > wrote:
>
>Mike T. wrote:
>>
>> Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
>> PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave
>
>You do understand our system of justice? Innocent until proven guilty?
> Yes they are put on paid leave until the investigation etc is over and
>then the penalty of whatever is applied. I guess you want everyone to
>be penalized at the instant of being accused of something eh?

That's how the system works for the rest of us.

A civilian in the same situation would be arrested on suspicion
of homicide and leaving the scene of a fatal accident. He would
lose his job. He would lose his driver's license. He would be
liable for $5K to $50K in lawyer's fees. If he was lucky he
would have enough money left to make bail. He would be out on
probation -- not a free man -- for six months or a year until
trial. The dead woman's family's lawyers would have filed a
multimillion dollar lawsuit and put a lien on his house. And
none of this depends on his guilt. If he wins at both trials,
he still goes through all of this.

Suspension without pay is much better treatment than civilians get.

--
John Carr )

In article >, John F. Carr wrote:
> In article . com>,
> Harry K > wrote:
>>
>>Mike T. wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
>>> PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave
>>
>>You do understand our system of justice? Innocent until proven guilty?
>> Yes they are put on paid leave until the investigation etc is over and
>>then the penalty of whatever is applied. I guess you want everyone to
>>be penalized at the instant of being accused of something eh?

> That's how the system works for the rest of us.
>
> A civilian in the same situation would be arrested on suspicion
> of homicide and leaving the scene of a fatal accident. He would
> lose his job. He would lose his driver's license. He would be
> liable for $5K to $50K in lawyer's fees. If he was lucky he
> would have enough money left to make bail. He would be out on
> probation -- not a free man -- for six months or a year until
> trial. The dead woman's family's lawyers would have filed a
> multimillion dollar lawsuit and put a lien on his house. And
> none of this depends on his guilt. If he wins at both trials,
> he still goes through all of this.
>
> Suspension without pay is much better treatment than civilians get.

Exactly. If a regular person is so much accused, he's in deep ****. A
cop, well that's special. And someone is going jabber about them being on
the job at the time... so is someone who drives a delivery truck.

>> " An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday. The officers have been placed on
>> paid leave pending an investigation. "
>>
>> Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
>> PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave
>
> You do understand our system of justice? Innocent until proven guilty?
> Yes they are put on paid leave until the investigation etc is over and
> then the penalty of whatever is applied. I guess you want everyone to
> be penalized at the instant of being accused of something eh?
>
> Harry K

You are confused. As a defendant, you are innocent until proven guilty (at
least in theory).

As an employee, you are employed "at will". If you **** up, you are fired,
and you have no right of appeal. Any of my employees runs over someone with
a company vehicle, they are FIRED, period. If they can somehow later prove
that they didn't actually run someone over with a company vehicle, I *might*
consider re-hiring them.

But it works differently, if you are a cop. Employees with badges who ****
up are rewarded with a paid vacation.
WHY??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????? -Dave

Mike T. wrote:
> As an employee, you are employed "at will". If you **** up, you are fired,
> and you have no right of appeal. Any of my employees runs over someone with
> a company vehicle, they are FIRED, period.

You live in paradise. In my country, if you catch someone with
hands in the till you have to give them a written warning that
their job is in danger, and not fire them unless they do it again.

There was a case recently where a plasterer employee was late;
used the company fuel card for his own car; and drew obscenities
and swastikas on the framing and windows of the house of a
Jewish client who was the nephew of a Holocaust survivor.

After being fired, he sued the employer and was awarded
$3000 for being fired in a humiliating manner. This was
reduced to $2400 after the judge decided that the guy
had brought it on himself to a degree of 20%.

>> As an employee, you are employed "at will". If you **** up, you are
>> fired,
>> and you have no right of appeal. Any of my employees runs over someone
>> with
>> a company vehicle, they are FIRED, period.
>
> You live in paradise. In my country, if you catch someone with
> hands in the till you have to give them a written warning that
> their job is in danger, and not fire them unless they do it again.
>
> There was a case recently where a plasterer employee was late;
> used the company fuel card for his own car; and drew obscenities
> and swastikas on the framing and windows of the house of a
> Jewish client who was the nephew of a Holocaust survivor.
>
> After being fired, he sued the employer and was awarded
> $3000 for being fired in a humiliating manner. This was
> reduced to $2400 after the judge decided that the guy
> had brought it on himself to a degree of 20%.
>

In the U.S., anybody can sue anybody else, for any reason. So the fired
plasterer probably would have filed suit against his ex-employer. The
difference is, we don't have silly rules stating that an employee who screws
up must be given a warning first. So, if that lawsuit was filed in the
U.S., it would have less chance of ending favorably for the plaintiff. The
presumption is that the employer has the right to fire anybody, for any or
NO reason. That's a tough nut to crack, if you are filing a civil lawsuit
over getting fired.

On a side note, it works the other way, too. Any employee can quit at any
time, with or without notice, and with or without a reason. And the
employer can't retaliate against him by holding his pay or anything silly
like that. Well, he might try to anyway. But he really can't, as all
employment here is at will. -Dave

In article ews.net>,
Mike T. > wrote:
>
>"morticide" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>> http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/13/bea....ap/index.html
>>
>> When I was in the military, I was taught "attention to detail." These
>> cops apparently forgot that principle. They're no safer than anyone
>> else.
>>
>
>
>" An autopsy was scheduled for Tuesday. The officers have been placed on
>paid leave pending an investigation. "
>
>Why is it that every time a cop ****s up BIG TIME, he is rewarded with a
>PAID VACATION?????????????????????????????????????????? ? -Dave

Union rules.


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