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BeeP wrote:
> Darn spell check! I meant "inconvenience" of spam..... ! > Bob Heh! I thought "incontinence" fit very well. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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In article >, says...
> > >BeeP wrote: >> Are there any Internet sources for chassis wiring diagrams, dash >> harness color codes, accessories, lights, etc? >> Looking for Voyager/Caravan 85-86 timeframe. >> TIA >> Bob > >Yes. The source is www.alldata.com. For $25 (1-year subscription) you >get on-line access to the stuff (including schematics) right out of the >FSM, and also the full TSB's for your vehicle. ($15 for additonal >vehicles and annual renewals). > >I assume it goes back to 86/86 - but you'll have to check. You might also check to see if your local library has a subscription to the service. One of the libraries near me lists Alldata as a service they have available. I'm going to pay them a visit this week. -------------- Alex |
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"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
... > BeeP wrote: > > Are there any Internet sources for chassis wiring diagrams, dash > > harness color codes, accessories, lights, etc? > > Looking for Voyager/Caravan 85-86 timeframe. > > TIA > > Bob > > Yes. The source is www.alldata.com. For $25 (1-year subscription) you > get on-line access to the stuff (including schematics) right out of the > FSM, and also the full TSB's for your vehicle. ($15 for additonal > vehicles and annual renewals). > > I assume it goes back to 86/86 - but you'll have to check. > > Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made. |
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"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
... > BeeP wrote: > > Are there any Internet sources for chassis wiring diagrams, dash > > harness color codes, accessories, lights, etc? > > Looking for Voyager/Caravan 85-86 timeframe. > > TIA > > Bob > > Yes. The source is www.alldata.com. For $25 (1-year subscription) you > get on-line access to the stuff (including schematics) right out of the > FSM, and also the full TSB's for your vehicle. ($15 for additonal > vehicles and annual renewals). > > I assume it goes back to 86/86 - but you'll have to check. > > Bill Putney > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made. |
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Hmmm... wrote:
> "Bill Putney" > wrote in message > ... > >>BeeP wrote: >> >>>Are there any Internet sources for chassis wiring diagrams, dash >>>harness color codes, accessories, lights, etc? >>>Looking for Voyager/Caravan 85-86 timeframe. >>>TIA >>>Bob >> >>Yes. The source is www.alldata.com. For $25 (1-year subscription) you >>get on-line access to the stuff (including schematics) right out of the >>FSM, and also the full TSB's for your vehicle. ($15 for additonal >>vehicles and annual renewals). >> >>I assume it goes back to 86/86 - but you'll have to check. >> >>Bill Putney >>(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >>adddress with the letter 'x') >> >> > > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased > with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections > between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was > wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made. Unless my understanding is wrong, the only way their info. would be wrong is if the FSM is wrong because the stuff on alldata is copied - not re-writeen, re-typed, or reformated - but taken directly word-for-word, figure-for-figure out of the FSM. (I will say that I took the bait on the CD-ROM manuals that alldata/popular mechanics used to market about 10 or so years ago, and they were fraudulently awful - worse than any hardcopy aftermarket manual I've ever seen. However they apparently cleaned up their act with the on-line subscription stuff. I don't know if they still sell the CD's. If so, I hope it's just a copy of the on-line info. and that they got out of the con business.) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Hmmm... wrote:
> "Bill Putney" > wrote in message > ... > >>BeeP wrote: >> >>>Are there any Internet sources for chassis wiring diagrams, dash >>>harness color codes, accessories, lights, etc? >>>Looking for Voyager/Caravan 85-86 timeframe. >>>TIA >>>Bob >> >>Yes. The source is www.alldata.com. For $25 (1-year subscription) you >>get on-line access to the stuff (including schematics) right out of the >>FSM, and also the full TSB's for your vehicle. ($15 for additonal >>vehicles and annual renewals). >> >>I assume it goes back to 86/86 - but you'll have to check. >> >>Bill Putney >>(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >>adddress with the letter 'x') >> >> > > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased > with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections > between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was > wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made. Unless my understanding is wrong, the only way their info. would be wrong is if the FSM is wrong because the stuff on alldata is copied - not re-writeen, re-typed, or reformated - but taken directly word-for-word, figure-for-figure out of the FSM. (I will say that I took the bait on the CD-ROM manuals that alldata/popular mechanics used to market about 10 or so years ago, and they were fraudulently awful - worse than any hardcopy aftermarket manual I've ever seen. However they apparently cleaned up their act with the on-line subscription stuff. I don't know if they still sell the CD's. If so, I hope it's just a copy of the on-line info. and that they got out of the con business.) Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"Hmmm..." > wrote in message news:sRwhd.8390$vB.777@trnddc03... > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased > with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections > between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was > wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made. > Did you let them know about it so they can fix their data? Ted |
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"Hmmm..." > wrote in message news:sRwhd.8390$vB.777@trnddc03... > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been pleased > with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the connections > between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was > wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were made. > Did you let them know about it so they can fix their data? Ted |
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"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message ... > > "Hmmm..." > wrote in message > news:sRwhd.8390$vB.777@trnddc03... > > > > I've used alldata for several years and for the most part have been > pleased > > with it. However, just last weekend I went there to verify the > connections > > between plugs and the coil pack. Much to my surprise the information was > > wrong. Luckily I had made a note of the way the old connections were > made. > > > > Did you let them know about it so they can fix their data? > > Ted > > Yes, I notified them. FWIW, they have a diagram in the firing order section that shows the coil pack upside down. Also, in the ignition cable section they say "A grooved tray routes the cables from the coil to each cylinder. The cables for the even number cylinders run along the bottom of the tray. Cables for the odd number cylinders run along the top of the tray." Their firing order diagram shows the even cylinders on the driver side of the engine, and the odd cylinders on the passenger side. If that is the case their statement about the grooved tray is backwards. The cables for the odd cylinders run along the bottom of the tray, and the cables for the even cylinders run along the top of the tray. |
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