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Blah Blah > wrote: > Lexus, Rebadged and Overpriced. And Lexus snobs HATE it when you point out...It's a Toyota. It drives them off the wall. "But it's a BETTER Toyota!!!" 'Uh, dude, it's the SAME FREAKING CAR, with a different trim level' "No it's not!!! Lexus is built a lot better!!!" If you've ever seen an older Lexus next to a same year Camary, they look identical, and are falling apart in identical ways, too. > Only a handfull of "old" BMW's I > actually liked (2 seaters mostly) and even if I owned one I'd probably > feel like a pompous ass driving one... I've seen some really old BMWs, with drum brakes and all. I'd get one for the old car appeal, but I'm not into BMW. They make a decent bike, though - the old ones are like harleys, you can get parts for them and they run forever, albeit a bit nicer than a same age Harley :/ > Nothing in over 2 decades has been worth owning by BMW. A friend of mine drove his friend's Z3, commented it's slower than his Caprice (this was the first year Z3 with the crappy 4 banger), the ride quality stunk (something I've noticed BMW excels at), and he didn't think it was overall that great. The BMWs I've been in didn't impress me much - lousy heat, for one, harsh ride, and not all that great. But, oh, they're pricy. And they break in expensive ways. Don't get me started on iDrive, either. Or BMW drivers in general... IMHO, BMW is slowly but surely turning into nothing more than an overpriced Chevy for snobs. Every dip out there has oe, they're really not that reliable, they SUCK in bad weather, and they're a mass produced bang together car like everything else. Hell, even a Benz is a POS these days - they're gone REALLY downmarket, vs the old ones. |
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> I've seen some really old BMWs, with drum brakes and all. I'd get one > for the old car appeal, but I'm not into BMW. They make a decent bike, > though - the old ones are like harleys, you can get parts for them and > they run forever, albeit a bit nicer than a same age Harley :/ 1956-59 507's were probably the few best looking BMW cars made. I like the horizontally opposed BMW bikes with the funky looking suspension set ups. Thats about it. > > Nothing in over 2 decades has been worth owning by BMW. > > A friend of mine drove his friend's Z3, commented it's slower than his > Caprice (this was the first year Z3 with the crappy 4 banger), the ride > quality stunk (something I've noticed BMW excels at), and he didn't > think it was overall that great. The BMWs I've been in didn't impress > me much - lousy heat, for one, harsh ride, and not all that great. The Z3 was a 35,000 dollar car new and boy what a waste of money. Save another 10k and buy Corvette that was 100 times the sports car. The only thing the Z3 had going for it was its looks. I seen a few ragged out Z3's and boy do those looks disappear quick. It really stands out as a cheaply made car once the bumpers hanging off and body panels dont line up. Probably from shaking apart. > But, oh, they're pricy. And they break in expensive ways. > > Don't get me started on iDrive, either. Or BMW drivers in general... > > IMHO, BMW is slowly but surely turning into nothing more than an > overpriced Chevy for snobs. Every dip out there has oe, they're really > not that reliable, they SUCK in bad weather, and they're a mass produced > bang together car like everything else. Hell, even a Benz is a POS > these days - they're gone REALLY downmarket, vs the old ones. These days? They havent made anything special since the 50's. |
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Blah Blah > wrote: > I like > the horizontally opposed BMW bikes with the funky looking suspension set > ups. Thats about it. They're nice bikes (The funky suspension in the back? I thought it was Indian who had that first?). Recent ones are an aquired taste, not to mention flaky - they have numerous electrical gremlins. BMW riders are less snobbish than Goldwingers, at least... > The Z3 was a 35,000 dollar car new and boy what a waste of money. Save > another 10k and buy Corvette that was 100 times the sports car. Yeah, no kidding. The Corvette, as much as people hate to hear it, is one of the best bang/buck performance cars out there. Plus, parts are available, well, at your local Chevy dealer > The only thing the Z3 had going for it was its looks. I thought they were ugly. The newer roadsters that use the roundels on the sides as turn signals would be coooler if the things popped out for a turn, then popped back in. But hey.... > It really stands out as a > cheaply made car once the bumpers hanging off and body panels dont line > up. Probably from shaking apart. Look at any 5 year old BMW. They fall apart quick. Oh yeah, notice the X5s around with the plastic shields around the exhausts in the bumpers missing. Do they still use that silly rubber donut CV joint that blows up every 50,000 miles or so? Other beef? They're ****ing expensive cars to repair, the dealers are assholes, and they break a lot. > These days? They havent made anything special since the 50's. I seriously don't get BMWs. You'd think a so called 'ultimate' driving machine would be at least somewhat reliable, handle decently in bad weather, and not fall apart, but darn, even my freaking Saturn can tolerate snow better, has gone 200,000+ miles without disaster, and isn't totally trashed. I do like the yearly fun of watching my neighbors try to get up the hill in the snow with theirs. They generally get hung up somewhere by the time they come near our driveway. My old Chevy wagon didn't even care about the snow, it'd just keep going and going.... |
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says... > In article >, > Blah Blah > wrote: > > > I like > > the horizontally opposed BMW bikes with the funky looking suspension set > > ups. Thats about it. > > They're nice bikes (The funky suspension in the back? I thought it was > Indian who had that first?). The r27 is a good example of BMW's funky suspensions. http://classic-mopeds.x-account.de/bmw/r27.jpg The savior like set up in the rear was found on both BMWs and Indians. http://classic-mopeds.x-account.de/bmw/bmw-r61.jpg They both also have used leaf spring suspension on the front and rear. http://classic-mopeds.x-account.de/bmw/bmw-r32sw.jpg http://www.starklite.com/museum/images/mike1.jpg IIRC BMW copied Indians use of leaf springs for the rear. http://www.photos.indianmotorbikes.c...lus/ppl019.jpg |
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