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What engine is best for a Splittie Bus?



 
 
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Old December 7th 04, 05:52 AM
Tim Rogers
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Default What engine is best for a Splittie Bus?

"Braukuche" > wrote in message
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>
> This person advised running a 1600 SP saying
> the SP had more low end umph than a dual port for example.
>
>


................I've read & heard more than a few times over the years, that
the best type 1 engine for a bus is a 1679 with machine-in 88 mm cylinders
and single port heads. If you want to flail it at high speeds in hot
weather, a type 4 with an upright fan conversion is what you'd want I'd
think.


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Old December 8th 04, 12:46 AM
Busman
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Both of the busses I've had (as drivers) have had 1600 SPs and I've never
had any major engine problems. Never had much trouble keeping up with
traffic as both had 67 trans/reduction boxes.
Andy

"Braukuche" > wrote in message
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> Read an interesting post on the vintage bus list about engine choices for
> early
> Busses. Some dude was thinking of putting a 1776 in his Bus and one of the
> posters advised against it saying that a high reving low torque engine is
> not
> the best choice for a split bus. This person advised running a 1600 SP
> saying
> the SP had more low end umph than a dual port for example. I recently
> traded a
> '66 'vert with a 1600 dp for a '65 Bus which the PO had put a 1835 with
> dual
> carbs. As part of the deal, we agreed to swap out motors. I did drive the
> Bus
> with the 1835 and man, what a difference in power. Accelerated like a
> regular
> car, excpet it did lack low end power, but once up to speed on the freeway
> it
> was kinda nice keeping up with the big boys. At idle and at low speed
> though, i
> thought that big engine was going to shake that Bus apart. I couldn't but
> help
> feel that an early Bus was not structured to handle that sort of power.
> Maybe
> I'm wrong but wonder what some of you others thought what is the best
> engine to
> run in a split Bus.
> --Dan E



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Old December 8th 04, 03:25 AM
Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott
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On 12/7/2004 7:11 PM Braukuche stood on a soap-box and preached to the
unwashed masses:

>>Both of the busses I've had (as drivers) have had 1600 SPs and I've never
>>had any major engine problems. Never had much trouble keeping up with
>>traffic as both had 67 trans/reduction boxes.
>>Andy

>
>
> Yeah, this should be interesting as the PO with the 1835 had a new trans and
> reduciton boxes installed with higher ratio gears for the 1835. I hope I don't
> end up like a bicyclist going up a steep hill in 10th gear.


Dan, when's the last time you were in a bicycle shop? Basic bikes these
days have 27 gears!
--
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
KG6RCR
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Old December 8th 04, 03:37 AM
ilambert
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A 1641 SP is an excellent choice for Buses,with or without reduction.Of
course a T$4$ conversion is the ultimate(if it's not too dear).By the
way,anyone else see the Splittie SC (blue and black,Fuchs,T4)on
Samba?Sweetness indeed.
"Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
et> wrote in message
...
> On 12/7/2004 7:11 PM Braukuche stood on a soap-box and preached to the
> unwashed masses:
>
>>>Both of the busses I've had (as drivers) have had 1600 SPs and I've never
>>>had any major engine problems. Never had much trouble keeping up with
>>>traffic as both had 67 trans/reduction boxes.
>>>Andy

>>
>>
>> Yeah, this should be interesting as the PO with the 1835 had a new trans
>> and
>> reduciton boxes installed with higher ratio gears for the 1835. I hope I
>> don't
>> end up like a bicyclist going up a steep hill in 10th gear.

>
> Dan, when's the last time you were in a bicycle shop? Basic bikes these
> days have 27 gears!
> --
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
> KG6RCR
> ------------------------------------
> Today's Deep Thought:
>
> Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
> ------------------------------------



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Old December 8th 04, 03:43 AM
ilambert
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Opps,it's a '67 double cab.Still a sweet piece.
"ilambert" > wrote in message
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>A 1641 SP is an excellent choice for Buses,with or without reduction.Of
>course a T$4$ conversion is the ultimate(if it's not too dear).By the
>way,anyone else see the Splittie SC (blue and black,Fuchs,T4)on
>Samba?Sweetness indeed.
> "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
> et> wrote in message
> ...
>> On 12/7/2004 7:11 PM Braukuche stood on a soap-box and preached to the
>> unwashed masses:
>>
>>>>Both of the busses I've had (as drivers) have had 1600 SPs and I've
>>>>never had any major engine problems. Never had much trouble keeping up
>>>>with traffic as both had 67 trans/reduction boxes.
>>>>Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, this should be interesting as the PO with the 1835 had a new trans
>>> and
>>> reduciton boxes installed with higher ratio gears for the 1835. I hope I
>>> don't
>>> end up like a bicyclist going up a steep hill in 10th gear.

>>
>> Dan, when's the last time you were in a bicycle shop? Basic bikes these
>> days have 27 gears!
>> --
>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
>> 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
>> KG6RCR
>> ------------------------------------
>> Today's Deep Thought:
>>
>> Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
>> ------------------------------------

>
>



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Old December 8th 04, 03:56 AM
Busman
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Man, I'd love to have a double cab! (I might even consider a bubble window
one - YIKES!). Loved my 60 Single Cab when I had it but 3 kids and a wife
just wouldn't fit in the under bed compartment ....
Andy


"ilambert" > wrote in message
...
> Opps,it's a '67 double cab.Still a sweet piece.
> "ilambert" > wrote in message
> ...
>>A 1641 SP is an excellent choice for Buses,with or without reduction.Of
>>course a T$4$ conversion is the ultimate(if it's not too dear).By the
>>way,anyone else see the Splittie SC (blue and black,Fuchs,T4)on
>>Samba?Sweetness indeed.
>> "Mike Rocket J. Squirrel Elliott"
>> et> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 12/7/2004 7:11 PM Braukuche stood on a soap-box and preached to the
>>> unwashed masses:
>>>
>>>>>Both of the busses I've had (as drivers) have had 1600 SPs and I've
>>>>>never had any major engine problems. Never had much trouble keeping up
>>>>>with traffic as both had 67 trans/reduction boxes.
>>>>>Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, this should be interesting as the PO with the 1835 had a new
>>>> trans and
>>>> reduciton boxes installed with higher ratio gears for the 1835. I hope
>>>> I don't
>>>> end up like a bicyclist going up a steep hill in 10th gear.
>>>
>>> Dan, when's the last time you were in a bicycle shop? Basic bikes these
>>> days have 27 gears!
>>> --
>>> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
>>> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
>>> 84 Westphalia: "Mellow Yellow (The Electrical Banana)"
>>> KG6RCR
>>> ------------------------------------
>>> Today's Deep Thought:
>>>
>>> Proofread carefully to see if you any words out.
>>> ------------------------------------

>>
>>

>
>



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Old December 8th 04, 05:14 AM
Bill Berckman
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Mike wrote:

>Dan, when's the last time you were in a bicycle shop? Basic bikes these
>days have 27 gears!
>--
>Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott


I still have my old 10 speed from the 70's. Don't really know why someone
would need 27 speeds, but I guess that more is better. )


Bill Berckman
67 Beetle


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Old December 8th 04, 10:37 PM
Chris Perdue
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>From: "Busman"

>. Loved my 60 Single Cab when I had it but 3 kids and a wife
>just wouldn't fit in the under bed compartment ....


you obviously did not fold them properly...<G>
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"I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in
the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the
air-cooled legend forward"
Jim Mais
Feb. 2004
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Old December 8th 04, 10:45 PM
Tim Rogers
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"Chris Perdue" > wrote in message
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> you obviously did not fold them properly...<G>
>
>


...........You talk big when she's busy in another room changing the diaper.


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Old December 8th 04, 11:25 PM
Chris Perdue
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>From: "Tim Rogers"

>..........You talk big when she's busy in another room changing the diaper.
>


i change as many as she does...hehe...im not scared...had greese under my nails
for years a little poop won't hurt....<G>
-------------------
Chris Perdue
"I'm ever so thankful for the Internet; it has allowed me to keep a finger in
the pie and to make some small contribution to those younger who will carry the
air-cooled legend forward"
Jim Mais
Feb. 2004
 




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