anti Touareg sentiment

Steve Grauman wrote:

>>All I did was point out that
>>the Touareg isn't really an SUV.
>
>
> I missed that post. AFAIK, the Toureag isn't car based. So what makes it not an
> SUV?

The fact that most of its owners probably don't use it for either
"sport" (i.e. offroading) or "utility" (i.e. hauling large amounts of
people of stuff). A CJ, or a Defender, is a "sport" vehicle. A
Suburban is a "utility" vehicle. The Touareg is neither. It's a nice,
comfortable, expensive road vehicle. Nothing wrong with that, but it
ain't a Sport-Utility Vehicle.

--
Mike Smith

Mike Smith wrote:
> JH wrote:
>
>> aokvw wrote:
>>
>>> Let's turn this thread in a positive direction: Group, tell us your
>>> most
>>> voyeuristic car experience to date. :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Rolled over smashed SUV's, involved in single vehicle accidents, are
>> always nice to see.
>
>
> That's a pretty crappy thing to say, no matter what you think of SUVs.
>
> --
> Mike Smith


Actually, I deleted that post soon after posting it and replaced "nice"
with "interesting". That seemed more appropriate.

I'm satisfied with "Rolled over smashed SUV's, involved in single
vehicle accidents, are always interesting to see."

And, yes, it is "crappy" that dolts buy those SUVS, falling for the
marketing pitch that they are safe...

What's the Cayenne bi-turbo? Jacked up sports car?
"Mike Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Grauman wrote:
>
>>>All I did was point out that the Touareg isn't really an SUV.
>>
>>
>> I missed that post. AFAIK, the Toureag isn't car based. So what makes it
>> not an
>> SUV?
>
> The fact that most of its owners probably don't use it for either "sport"
> (i.e. offroading) or "utility" (i.e. hauling large amounts of people of
> stuff). A CJ, or a Defender, is a "sport" vehicle. A Suburban is a
> "utility" vehicle. The Touareg is neither. It's a nice, comfortable,
> expensive road vehicle. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't a
> Sport-Utility Vehicle.
>
> --
> Mike Smith

>And, yes, it is "crappy" that dolts buy those SUVS, falling for the
>marketing pitch that they are safe...
>
>

There's nothing unsafe about the vast majority of modern SUVs. It's the way
they're DRIVEN that's unsafe, more often than not.
Steve Grauman

>The fact that most of its owners probably don't use it for either
>"sport" (i.e. offroading)

Most people don't use most SUVs for offroading, but we know the Toureag is
capable.

>or "utility" (i.e. hauling large amounts of
>people of stuff).

It certainly has the space. We've just test driven a V8 model and it's
certainly roomy.

> A CJ, or a Defender, is a "sport" vehicle

But the vast majority of people who own them never go offroad. At least not to
the extent they were designed for. So I guess that defeats the "sport" part.

>A
>Suburban is a "utility" vehicle.

Funny, the only thing I regularly see Suburbans hauling are the butts of
upper-middle class mommies and their kids. None of these vehciles are any more
or less sport utes than the VW.
Steve Grauman

Steve Grauman wrote:
>>And, yes, it is "crappy" that dolts buy those SUVS, falling for the
>>marketing pitch that they are safe...
>>
>>
>
>
> There's nothing unsafe about the vast majority of modern SUVs. It's the way
> they're DRIVEN that's unsafe, more often than not.
> Steve Grauman


Follow the links I posted earlier in the this thread to get the FACTS
about SUV safety, Stevie Boy. And, yes, often the dolts make it worse
by their driving.

"Mike Smith" > wrote in message
...
> Numan wrote:
> >
> > So, your complaint is with, and your energy should be pointed towards,
the
> > auto industry. They should be forced to make cleaner autos.
>
> No, they shouldn't.
>
> --
> Mike Smith

Why not?

JH wrote:
>
> Actually, I deleted that post soon after posting it and replaced "nice"
> with "interesting". That seemed more appropriate.

....

> And, yes, it is "crappy" that dolts buy those SUVS, falling for the
> marketing pitch that they are safe...

Um, did you regret your original post, or not? Based on this last bit,
it doesn't really sound like you do...

--
Mike Smith

Numan wrote:

> "Mike Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Numan wrote:
>>
>>>So, your complaint is with, and your energy should be pointed towards,
>
> the
>
>>>auto industry. They should be forced to make cleaner autos.
>>
>>No, they shouldn't.
>
> Why not?

Because this (supposedly) is not a communist state? If you don't like
the cars that the auto industry is buying, then *don't* buy them. If
enough people agree with you, the auto industry will get the message
(and *have been*, for the last 30 years).

--
Mike Smith

Rob Guenther wrote:

> "Mike Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Steve Grauman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>All I did was point out that the Touareg isn't really an SUV.
>>>
>>>
>>>I missed that post. AFAIK, the Toureag isn't car based. So what makes it
>>>not an
>>>SUV?
>>
>>The fact that most of its owners probably don't use it for either "sport"
>>(i.e. offroading) or "utility" (i.e. hauling large amounts of people of
>>stuff). A CJ, or a Defender, is a "sport" vehicle. A Suburban is a
>>"utility" vehicle. The Touareg is neither. It's a nice, comfortable,
>>expensive road vehicle. Nothing wrong with that, but it ain't a
>>Sport-Utility Vehicle.
>
> What's the Cayenne bi-turbo? Jacked up sports car?

Given that maybe 0.01% of its owners will actually take it off-road?
Yeah, I guess that would be an appropriate description.

--
Mike Smith