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Old May 29th 05, 05:19 AM
Dannyboyy
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Default TC - Did I pay too much?

I'm just sick about it. I mean when I heard this I just about had
to excuse myself to go puke. Some history:

In late '02 I was attracted to the '03 TC EX with its tight margin
to compete feature to feature with the Ody. I got a suppliers
discount of like 1% below invoice and after tag title tax I was out
the door for $26K. I thought why try to get confused looking at the
Lxi's and all the discounts and stuff when I could just get the
tightly priced EX. Well, My buddy just got an Lxi or equivilent
Caravan and the only difference was no auto tailgate for $21K!!!!
Ho he did it was he went dealer to dealer and threatened to walk off
the lot if they came back with a low price that wasn't low enough.
i.e. they shopped the lowest price and ended up at a high volume
dealer. So he saved $5000 that I basically lined DCX pockets with.

But back in '02 I think $26k was pretty much what other's were
reporting that they were paying. I am usually pretty savvy but I
got spanked on this deal. BTW - 3 days after buying a new mvan his
steering hose blew and he unloaded steering fluid all over my
driveway. We took a photo of the Van on the flatbed with his full-
term pregnant wife giving the thumbs up - "We love our new minivan!
Thanks Chrysler!" hehe. When the dealer had later fixed his van he
insisted he get a brand new one. They complied!

Please don't rub it in if I paid too much -


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Old May 29th 05, 05:38 AM
Daniel J. Stern
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On Sun, 29 May 2005, Dannyboyy wrote:

> I'm just sick about it. I mean when I heard this I just about had
> to excuse myself to go puke. Some history:
> In late '02 I was attracted to the '03 TC EX with its tight margin


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Old May 29th 05, 03:40 PM
Dannyboyy
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Do you think I should? The other one looked kind of like a spam topic so I
thought this one might get some responses. Looks like it did :-)




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Old May 29th 05, 03:55 PM
Billy J. King
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Haha don't sweat it. Always a wise guy out there. Anyway you probably paid
more than you had to at the time but remember there is always a better deal
out there somewhere. Just enjoy what you have and rack it up for
experience.

Cheers



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Old May 30th 05, 08:23 AM
Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Dannyboyy" > wrote in message
...
> I'm just sick about it. I mean when I heard this I just about had
> to excuse myself to go puke. Some history:
>
> In late '02 I was attracted to the '03 TC EX with its tight margin
> to compete feature to feature with the Ody. I got a suppliers
> discount of like 1% below invoice and after tag title tax I was out
> the door for $26K. I thought why try to get confused looking at the
> Lxi's and all the discounts and stuff when I could just get the
> tightly priced EX. Well, My buddy just got an Lxi or equivilent
> Caravan and the only difference was no auto tailgate for $21K!!!!


Hey, for years it has been well known that the Caravan and the TC are
the same vehicle, with the exception of some window dressing, and
the TC has cost more. A long time ago there was more of a difference,
but that difference has eroded.

But as one consolation I have for you, no matter how much your buddy
may crow about saving $5K the fact remains that the Caravan name
has a strong association with cheap, the TC has a strong association
with luxury. The next time he opens his yap you can tell him that at
least you don't have the same van as 3/4 of the Kmart shoppers in
the parking lot. Your buddy knows this well or why would he keep
telling you how much he saved - he's continuting to reassure himself
that his cheaper van is just as good as your more expensive one.

You ought to go ask your wife or girlfriend one of these days why
they go buy their mascara/lipstick/perfume from the hoity-toity
department store instead of just going to Kmart and getting the
exact same stuff for 1/4 of the cost. I guarentee you they will tell
you the more expensive stuff has a better color - and you can take
a stick of their expensive lipstick and a stick of the cheap stuff from
Kmart of the same color, and bring it to a paint store and get a
printout from the color match computer saying they are exactly
the same shade.

The honest-to-God truth of the matter, which you probably don' t
want to hear, is that both you and your buddy are spending a
whole lot more on vehicles than if both of you just bought some
3 or 4 year old used van. Your both essentially funding the rest
of us who don't go buy new cars. While that is fine for me,
you should at least be aware that if you really cared that much
about saving money on a vehicle, you would never buy a new one
again.

To you and your buddy, who have enough money to burn on
fripperies like new vehicles, all this price/cost is some giant game
to you. Maybe one day you ought to try to understand that to
a lot of people, money is a far more precious resource than it is to you,
and that careful husbanding of the peanuts we make during our
working lives is the only thing that will keep us off the street once
we are too old to work anymore. You can afford to lose $5K in
this game with your buddy, to a lot of families, $5K is all they can
spend a year on food to feed themselves.

Ted


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Old May 30th 05, 10:03 PM
Denny
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"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
...
>
> > The honest-to-God truth of the matter, which you probably don' t

> want to hear, is that both you and your buddy are spending a
> whole lot more on vehicles than if both of you just bought some
> 3 or 4 year old used van. Your both essentially funding the rest
> of us who don't go buy new cars. While that is fine for me,
> you should at least be aware that if you really cared that much
> about saving money on a vehicle, you would never buy a new one
> again.
>
> To you and your buddy, who have enough money to burn on
> fripperies like new vehicles, all this price/cost is some giant game
> to you. Maybe one day you ought to try to understand that to
> a lot of people, money is a far more precious resource than it is to you,
> and that careful husbanding of the peanuts we make during our
> working lives is the only thing that will keep us off the street once
> we are too old to work anymore. You can afford to lose $5K in
> this game with your buddy, to a lot of families, $5K is all they can
> spend a year on food to feed themselves.
>
> Ted
>


Gee, nothing like telling somebody how stupid they are for spending "their"
money....... I wish I had a mom like you..

Denny


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Old May 31st 05, 09:13 PM
Art
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With high gas prices, SUV's and minivans are sitting unsold on dealers lots.
Discounts are bigger now than they were when you were in the market. I wish
I had bought a few Toyota Prius's when they first came out. I could make a
bundle on them now.


"Dannyboyy" > wrote in message
...
> I'm just sick about it. I mean when I heard this I just about had
> to excuse myself to go puke. Some history:
>
> In late '02 I was attracted to the '03 TC EX with its tight margin
> to compete feature to feature with the Ody. I got a suppliers
> discount of like 1% below invoice and after tag title tax I was out
> the door for $26K. I thought why try to get confused looking at the
> Lxi's and all the discounts and stuff when I could just get the
> tightly priced EX. Well, My buddy just got an Lxi or equivilent
> Caravan and the only difference was no auto tailgate for $21K!!!!
> Ho he did it was he went dealer to dealer and threatened to walk off
> the lot if they came back with a low price that wasn't low enough.
> i.e. they shopped the lowest price and ended up at a high volume
> dealer. So he saved $5000 that I basically lined DCX pockets with.
>
> But back in '02 I think $26k was pretty much what other's were
> reporting that they were paying. I am usually pretty savvy but I
> got spanked on this deal. BTW - 3 days after buying a new mvan his
> steering hose blew and he unloaded steering fluid all over my
> driveway. We took a photo of the Van on the flatbed with his full-
> term pregnant wife giving the thumbs up - "We love our new minivan!
> Thanks Chrysler!" hehe. When the dealer had later fixed his van he
> insisted he get a brand new one. They complied!
>
> Please don't rub it in if I paid too much -
>
>



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Old June 2nd 05, 09:41 AM
Ted Mittelstaedt
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"Art" > wrote in message
link.net...
> With high gas prices, SUV's and minivans are sitting unsold on dealers

lots.
> Discounts are bigger now than they were when you were in the market. I

wish
> I had bought a few Toyota Prius's when they first came out. I could make

a
> bundle on them now.
>


Not now:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._investigation

Ted


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Old June 2nd 05, 03:22 PM
gary
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How do YOU know he can easily afford it?

"Ted Mittelstaedt" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Denny" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> Gee, nothing like telling somebody how stupid they are for spending

> "their"
>> money....... I wish I had a mom like you..
>>

>
> I'm not telling him how stupid he is for spending his money.
>
> I'm telling him how stupid he is for getting his tit in a wringer over an
> amount of
> money which he quite obviously can easily afford.
>
> Ted
>
>



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Old June 3rd 05, 01:19 AM
Billy J. King
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I agree to a point. But then again there is now some serious competition
with the Ody and the Sienna where before it was just the Ody. So that is
driving down prices.

And to Ted out there - I appreciate your comments and I don't take them
personally. Just take them with a grain of salt. But come on! Losing 5
large to the dealer would make anyone sick - even Bill Gates. Plus I don't
think you are all wise with your used car philosophy. I'm driving a 15 year
old Acura that I work on myself. But having had and hated a used Jeep GC I
vowed to get a new DCX with a warranty and make them fix everything that
went wrong with it. That was a good investment - was it worth say, $5K
more? Not really and sadly my wife still griped about the problems so I
guess no. But used car prices fluctuate sometimes more than new cars. Its
a commodity market and used or new it is volitile I am learning.


"Art" > wrote in message
link.net...
> With high gas prices, SUV's and minivans are sitting unsold on dealers

lots.
> Discounts are bigger now than they were when you were in the market. I

wish
> I had bought a few Toyota Prius's when they first came out. I could make

a
> bundle on them now.
>
>
> "Dannyboyy" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm just sick about it. I mean when I heard this I just about had
> > to excuse myself to go puke. Some history:
> >
> > In late '02 I was attracted to the '03 TC EX with its tight margin
> > to compete feature to feature with the Ody. I got a suppliers
> > discount of like 1% below invoice and after tag title tax I was out
> > the door for $26K. I thought why try to get confused looking at the
> > Lxi's and all the discounts and stuff when I could just get the
> > tightly priced EX. Well, My buddy just got an Lxi or equivilent
> > Caravan and the only difference was no auto tailgate for $21K!!!!
> > Ho he did it was he went dealer to dealer and threatened to walk off
> > the lot if they came back with a low price that wasn't low enough.
> > i.e. they shopped the lowest price and ended up at a high volume
> > dealer. So he saved $5000 that I basically lined DCX pockets with.
> >
> > But back in '02 I think $26k was pretty much what other's were
> > reporting that they were paying. I am usually pretty savvy but I
> > got spanked on this deal. BTW - 3 days after buying a new mvan his
> > steering hose blew and he unloaded steering fluid all over my
> > driveway. We took a photo of the Van on the flatbed with his full-
> > term pregnant wife giving the thumbs up - "We love our new minivan!
> > Thanks Chrysler!" hehe. When the dealer had later fixed his van he
> > insisted he get a brand new one. They complied!
> >
> > Please don't rub it in if I paid too much -
> >
> >

>
>



 




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