Cherokee Winches

I'm picking up a Warn 8000 or 9000lb winch used from a friend for CHEEAAP
today. I know it works because it was on my old truck which I sold to him.

I'd like to mount it via a front reciever for now, as I like the idea of
being able to remove the winch when I am not wheeling. I live in an urban
area and I'm concerned the winch will be stolen.

Is this the way to go?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tego ry=33653

What type of receiver do I need to get?

Thanks,

Carl

Carl

I use a Draw Tite front receiver on my 97 GC and it works very well.
It is a bolt on installation in place of the front skid plate, includes
two tow eyes and does not interfere with the existing tow hooks. It
required no cutting of the bumper fascia to install and decreased the
approach angle just a bit. I think they also make a unit for the
Cherokee,.

On my 88 Cherokee I fabricated a front receiver that mounted to the
factory tow hook mounts. I'm a mechanical engineer and was able to
design and then weld it up. If you go the "build" route be warned that
8 or 9000# requires a good bit of steel to handle that load. Your idea
to buy rather than build is the way to go.

Howard

Thanks Howard. Where did you get the draw tite receiver from? Is it better
to weld or bolt on? How much did it cost? Will I rip the reciever off?

Thanks,

Carl




"Howard" > wrote in message
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> Carl
>
> I use a Draw Tite front receiver on my 97 GC and it works very well.
> It is a bolt on installation in place of the front skid plate, includes
> two tow eyes and does not interfere with the existing tow hooks. It
> required no cutting of the bumper fascia to install and decreased the
> approach angle just a bit. I think they also make a unit for the
> Cherokee,.
>
> On my 88 Cherokee I fabricated a front receiver that mounted to the
> factory tow hook mounts. I'm a mechanical engineer and was able to
> design and then weld it up. If you go the "build" route be warned that
> 8 or 9000# requires a good bit of steel to handle that load. Your idea
> to buy rather than build is the way to go.
>
> Howard
>

Are these two parts what I need? Will I have any problems with the hitch
ripping from my frame? Can I bolt it on and then weld it as well?


http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=FMH

http://www.etrailer.com/productdetai... from=1989&h=e

Thanks again,

Carl

"Howard" > wrote in message
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> Carl
>
> I use a Draw Tite front receiver on my 97 GC and it works very well.
> It is a bolt on installation in place of the front skid plate, includes
> two tow eyes and does not interfere with the existing tow hooks. It
> required no cutting of the bumper fascia to install and decreased the
> approach angle just a bit. I think they also make a unit for the
> Cherokee,.
>
> On my 88 Cherokee I fabricated a front receiver that mounted to the
> factory tow hook mounts. I'm a mechanical engineer and was able to
> design and then weld it up. If you go the "build" route be warned that
> 8 or 9000# requires a good bit of steel to handle that load. Your idea
> to buy rather than build is the way to go.
>
> Howard
>

Carl
I f I remember correctly Jeep does not allow any welding of the frame
because the heat may affect the strength of the steel. Both my GC and
the Cherokee were bolt on. Just remember to use the included hardware
and check them for tightness. Draw Tite seems to be available just
about everywhere. I happened to live about 5 miles from one of their
warehouses so my auto parts store could get one the same day with no
shipping charges. I tend to try and buy local just in case and to keep
them in buisness. Of course it depends where you are located.
Regards

Howard

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brown sugar
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Howard -

This is the winch I have:
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/src/M8274-50.shtml

Mine is the older style which has the controller plug in on the front of the
selonoid pack.


http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=FMH

That mounting plate doesn't look like it will accomodate my winch. I didn't
see any on the Warn site that will accomodate it either. I suppose I could
mount it with the mounts down, and just bolt the fairlead to the two holes
in the plate. but I think the winch might be too deep. I could also mount it
upright with the plate between the fairlead and the winch, but I'm concerned
about only having two bolts hold the winch down.

Ideas? Is the 8274 a decent winch?

Thanks,

Carl


"Howard" > wrote in message
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> Carl
> I f I remember correctly Jeep does not allow any welding of the frame
> because the heat may affect the strength of the steel. Both my GC and
> the Cherokee were bolt on. Just remember to use the included hardware
> and check them for tightness. Draw Tite seems to be available just
> about everywhere. I happened to live about 5 miles from one of their
> warehouses so my auto parts store could get one the same day with no
> shipping charges. I tend to try and buy local just in case and to keep
> them in buisness. Of course it depends where you are located.
> Regards
>
> Howard
>

I'm not a fan of using the receiver hitch with a 8000/9000 pound winch.
Depending on the size of the steel used in the receiver cross member, it
may be strong enough to pull a 5000 pound gross weight trailer but not
strong enough to handle a straight 9000 pound winch when it stalls out.
Worse yet, very few pulls are straight line, you are likely to bend the
receiver off center on a hard pull. I've seen some home made dual
receiver mounts (Two 2" receivers about 24" apart) that are much better.

Carl Saiyed wrote:
> I'm picking up a Warn 8000 or 9000lb winch used from a friend for CHEEAAP
> today. I know it works because it was on my old truck which I sold to him.
>
> I'd like to mount it via a front reciever for now, as I like the idea of
> being able to remove the winch when I am not wheeling. I live in an urban
> area and I'm concerned the winch will be stolen.
>
> Is this the way to go?
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tego ry=33653
>
> What type of receiver do I need to get?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl
>
>