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Old September 8th 03, 04:37 AM
Damaclese
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ive got an unidentified african that i got in a bulk deal. i have a 155
gallon bowfront. i think it may even be a southamerican im not too sure buy
any way it has recently decided to inhabit one of my coconut shells as a
breeding ground. i found this out by being attacked by it while rearanging a
fuilter output tube it has attacked me a few times since it doesent draw
blood but is extreemly protective. what i was wondering is is there any
chance that males of the same lake may be able to fertilize different
species ? ive never encountetred this info anywhere else so im guessing the
answer will be a stong no

any input will be helpfull thanks people!


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Old September 8th 03, 05:14 AM
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"Damaclese" wrote in message
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ive got an unidentified african that i got in a bulk deal. i have a 155
gallon bowfront. i think it may even be a southamerican im not too sure

buy
any way it has recently decided to inhabit one of my coconut shells as a
breeding ground. i found this out by being attacked by it while rearanging

a
fuilter output tube it has attacked me a few times since it doesent draw
blood but is extreemly protective. what i was wondering is is there any
chance that males of the same lake may be able to fertilize different
species ? ive never encountetred this info anywhere else so im guessing

the
answer will be a stong no

any input will be helpfull thanks people!


Some species of cichlid will hybridize. This is where Flowerhorns and Blood
Parrots come from. The results are horrible, malformed beasts whose
miserable, disabled existence serves only to pollute the bloodlines of real
cichlids. So yes, it is possible, but IMHO any offspring should be culled
immediately.
levittd


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Old September 8th 03, 07:17 AM
CKight8988
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but IMHO any offspring should be culled
immediately.


HMMM so why even attempt to breed if your gonna cull all the offspring? ...Cary
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Old September 8th 03, 07:20 AM
CKight8988
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HMMM so why even attempt to breed if your gonna cull all the offspring?
...Cary


Sorry that should read "Why should one breed if they are gonna cull all the
offspring?"........Cary
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Old September 8th 03, 01:04 PM
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CKight8988 wrote:

HMMM so why even attempt to breed if your gonna cull all the offspring? ...Cary


It sounds like the original poster is not intending to breed these fish.
The OP has just noticed breeding-like behavior and wondering if hybrids
are possible. The answer to that would be "yes, they are" and levittd is
advocating any such hybrids be destroyed.
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Old September 8th 03, 03:40 PM
The Madd Hatter
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Not really. In the Rift Lakes, these species exist in isolated localities
separated by great rock reefs or large bodies of water. They are usually
territorial, hence they don't go far from where they are born. A lot of them
are genetically,very close, but wouldn't breed even if they ran into each
other since they usualy will have a choice ofmates from their own species
available that display the right cues.


"3492" wrote in message
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I think crossbreeding is something that happens in the lake to and so

doing
makes new species to i think(sorry if mij writng isn't so good
patrick
"Damaclese" schreef in bericht
...
ive got an unidentified african that i got in a bulk deal. i have a 155
gallon bowfront. i think it may even be a southamerican im not too sure

buy
any way it has recently decided to inhabit one of my coconut shells as a
breeding ground. i found this out by being attacked by it while

rearanging
a
fuilter output tube it has attacked me a few times since it doesent draw
blood but is extreemly protective. what i was wondering is is there any
chance that males of the same lake may be able to fertilize different
species ? ive never encountetred this info anywhere else so im guessing

the
answer will be a stong no

any input will be helpfull thanks people!






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Old September 8th 03, 04:27 PM
GrlIntrpted
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Some species of cichlid will hybridize. This is where Flowerhorns and

Blood
Parrots come from. The results are horrible, malformed beasts whose
miserable, disabled existence serves only to pollute the bloodlines of

real
cichlids. So yes, it is possible, but IMHO any offspring should be culled
immediately.
levittd


Hmmm, so what happens in nature? In the native habitat of the fish, unless
you are suggesting that there is absolutely no cross breeding in natural
surroundings...

Mariana




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Old September 8th 03, 05:08 PM
CKight8988
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It sounds like the original poster is not intending to breed these fish.
The OP has just noticed breeding-like behavior and wondering if hybrids
are possible. The answer to that would be "yes, they are" and levittd is
advocating any such hybrids be destroyed.



Because of the abnormalties the fish my have would cause them discomfort?
Cary
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Old September 8th 03, 05:44 PM
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 15:27:25 GMT, "GrlIntrpted"
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Hmmm, so what happens in nature? In the native habitat of the fish, unless
you are suggesting that there is absolutely no cross breeding in natural
surroundings...

Mariana


Species that may cross usually don't live in the same area. They never
see one another until they meet in an aquarium. Even the common
aquarium hybrids such as those that occur in lake Malawi species never
meet in nature. The collectors are not allowed to dump excess fish
back into the lake. If they did some hybrids would occur. It's the
artificially forced cohabitation of different species from different
areas that produces the occasional cross.

It is very, very, very rare for hybrids to occur in nature.


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Old September 8th 03, 05:44 PM
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 13:41:09 GMT, "3492"
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I think crossbreeding is something that happens in the lake to and so doing
makes new species to i think(sorry if mij writng isn't so good
patrick


It's variation, population spread and subsequent isolation that
results in new species. The reverse doesn't happen.


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