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Old December 23rd 04, 07:00 AM
The Real Bev
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John David Galt wrote:
>
> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> > http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/maint/external_survey/

>
> Thanks, I told them congestion is priority 1 and they should stop wasting
> our gas-tax and car-tax on public transportation that nobody uses and start
> building more freeways. They've got 30 years of catching up to do.


It will be interesting to see how many people regard landscaping as
Caltrans' most important function. I find it disgusting that it was
even on the list when there are so many REAL things that need doing.

That being said, I recently noticed the beautiful forest they created
~30 years ago on the banks of the 210 through Pasadena. There are even
some Moreton Bay fig trees perhaps 6 feet in diameter, which is
extraordinarily cool. The bad part is that the freeway is raised
through here, and the only people who can appreciate the plantings are
the residents of the frontage roads. They'd be a perfect place for kids
to play if they weren't fenced off with 6' chain link.

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  #12  
Old December 23rd 04, 09:36 AM
Kevin McMurtrie
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In article >,
John David Galt > wrote:

> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> > http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/maint/external_survey/

>
> Thanks, I told them congestion is priority 1 and they should stop wasting
> our gas-tax and car-tax on public transportation that nobody uses and start
> building more freeways. They've got 30 years of catching up to do.


Nobody uses public transportation because it can't be used. Maps are
confusing or even missing, some areas don't have parking, bicycle
capacity is very limited, and some areas lack sidewalks and bike lanes
for traveling the last mile.

I'd like to bicycle to work but I'd have to travel through areas of
congested and dangerous detours that have existed for years. There must
be an inside joke about ensuring that all Hwy 101 projects are completed
five years after they no longer meet capacity needs. Years of detours
for a minor upgrade is worse than never touching the road to start with.
  #13  
Old December 23rd 04, 09:36 AM
Kevin McMurtrie
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In article >,
John David Galt > wrote:

> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> > http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/maint/external_survey/

>
> Thanks, I told them congestion is priority 1 and they should stop wasting
> our gas-tax and car-tax on public transportation that nobody uses and start
> building more freeways. They've got 30 years of catching up to do.


Nobody uses public transportation because it can't be used. Maps are
confusing or even missing, some areas don't have parking, bicycle
capacity is very limited, and some areas lack sidewalks and bike lanes
for traveling the last mile.

I'd like to bicycle to work but I'd have to travel through areas of
congested and dangerous detours that have existed for years. There must
be an inside joke about ensuring that all Hwy 101 projects are completed
five years after they no longer meet capacity needs. Years of detours
for a minor upgrade is worse than never touching the road to start with.
  #14  
Old December 23rd 04, 04:20 PM
Alex Rodriguez
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In article >, says...
>
>
>John David Galt wrote:
>>
>> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>> >
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/maint/external_survey/
>>
>> Thanks, I told them congestion is priority 1 and they should stop wasting
>> our gas-tax and car-tax on public transportation that nobody uses and start
>> building more freeways. They've got 30 years of catching up to do.

>
>It will be interesting to see how many people regard landscaping as
>Caltrans' most important function. I find it disgusting that it was
>even on the list when there are so many REAL things that need doing.


Landscaping, to a point, is important. It helps control erosion. If you
get too much erosion, the roads could collapse.


>That being said, I recently noticed the beautiful forest they created
>~30 years ago on the banks of the 210 through Pasadena. There are even
>some Moreton Bay fig trees perhaps 6 feet in diameter, which is
>extraordinarily cool. The bad part is that the freeway is raised
>through here, and the only people who can appreciate the plantings are
>the residents of the frontage roads. They'd be a perfect place for kids
>to play if they weren't fenced off with 6' chain link.


Some places do a better job than others at making the roads attractive. The
extra trees also help to offset some of the pollution emitted by all the cars
using the road.
---------------
Alex

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Old December 23rd 04, 04:20 PM
Alex Rodriguez
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In article >, says...
>
>
>John David Galt wrote:
>>
>> Scott en Aztlán wrote:
>> >
http://www.dot.ca.gov/hq/maint/external_survey/
>>
>> Thanks, I told them congestion is priority 1 and they should stop wasting
>> our gas-tax and car-tax on public transportation that nobody uses and start
>> building more freeways. They've got 30 years of catching up to do.

>
>It will be interesting to see how many people regard landscaping as
>Caltrans' most important function. I find it disgusting that it was
>even on the list when there are so many REAL things that need doing.


Landscaping, to a point, is important. It helps control erosion. If you
get too much erosion, the roads could collapse.


>That being said, I recently noticed the beautiful forest they created
>~30 years ago on the banks of the 210 through Pasadena. There are even
>some Moreton Bay fig trees perhaps 6 feet in diameter, which is
>extraordinarily cool. The bad part is that the freeway is raised
>through here, and the only people who can appreciate the plantings are
>the residents of the frontage roads. They'd be a perfect place for kids
>to play if they weren't fenced off with 6' chain link.


Some places do a better job than others at making the roads attractive. The
extra trees also help to offset some of the pollution emitted by all the cars
using the road.
---------------
Alex

 




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