Porsche 944 taillight question

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005, Nate Nagel wrote:

> > Looks as though there are some very affordable used ones ($25 and $30)
> > found on www.car-part.com (searchable used auto parts nationwide). The
> > results are sorted in descending-price order; the page with the lowest
> > price is marked with a *.

> Nothing under $75 in MD

That's what UPS and USPS are for.

Nate Nagel wrote:
> ...
> Another follow up... wiring does not appear to be installed nor are
> their bulbholders in the unused position in the taillights. However
> this looks like a fairly easy job if anyone has a scrap taillight they'd
> like to donate or sell for the cause. anyone...? I promise to document
> should anyone want to do this conversion in the future.

There are the usual suspects for used Porsche parts (e.g., Parts
Heaven, 944 Ecology, etc.)

However Performance Products stocks (or at least used to stock...) a
kit which includes a couple of the exact bulbholders one needs for the
plate on the back of the tail light assembly. IIRC, it was about $10.

Walt - 86 944 NA
-...-
Walt Spector
(w6ws at earthlink dot net)

Walter Spector wrote:

> Nate Nagel wrote:
>
>>...
>>Another follow up... wiring does not appear to be installed nor are
>>their bulbholders in the unused position in the taillights. However
>>this looks like a fairly easy job if anyone has a scrap taillight they'd
>>like to donate or sell for the cause. anyone...? I promise to document
>>should anyone want to do this conversion in the future.
>
>
> There are the usual suspects for used Porsche parts (e.g., Parts
> Heaven, 944 Ecology, etc.)
>
> However Performance Products stocks (or at least used to stock...) a
> kit which includes a couple of the exact bulbholders one needs for the
> plate on the back of the tail light assembly. IIRC, it was about $10.
>
> Walt - 86 944 NA
> -...-
> Walt Spector
> (w6ws at earthlink dot net)

Thanks for the reply, I didn't see it on their web site, and one of the
guys on the Pelican forums said that the sockets were NLA at least from
Porsche or VW. I have been in touch with one guy parting a car,
hopefully that will give me the joy I seek. If not, I'll give PP a call.

nate

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Nate Nagel wrote:

> Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, N8N wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> reaction to brake lights is quicker when they are combination
>>>> brake/tail units. Your way (with P21 bulb) would also take away your
>>>> sideward visibility of the taillamp/sidemarker, which is definitely a
>>>> step backwards.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Any reason for that assertion?
>>
>>
>>
>> Eyetracker research shows that observers' eyes "prime" on the taillamps
>> and react faster when a taillamp they're already paying attention to gets
>> 5x brighter, than they do when the taillamp stays the same and another
>> red
>> light comes on in a different location. The amount of difference is
>> fairly
>> well related to the distance between the tail and brake functions, which
>> means Volvo has got it wrong.
>>
>
> just seems counterintuitive to me... would like to know how big of a
> deal it really is?
>
> anyway, in case anyone still cares about this anal retentive saga, I found:
>
> http://www.po944.de/images/po944_37.htm
>
> shows both brake and taillights on, confirming pattern...
>
> http://www.po944.de/images/po944_25.htm
>
> appears to have rear fog switch just to the left of the front fog
> switch, as I expected
>
> finally
>
> http://jimweb.free.fr/photos944.html
>
> sure looks like the reflectors only are lit for parking lights, not the
> outside segments as well... so probably buying euro bulbholders
> wouldn't do a thing for me anyway... (yeah, insomnia makes you do weird
> things I guess. Hoodathunk there'd be so many pics of 944s online but
> so few of Euro models with the lights on?)
>
> nate
>

Just a followup, if anyone cares - yesterday I got a package from
someone parting out a 944... in it was a bulbholder... looks like this
car was grey market as the plate is clearly stamped "EUROPA" and the
bulb markings and sockets bear out my original assumption that the brake
light is indeed a P21W not a P21/5W.

Now I just have to track down a switch for the rear fog (could I get
lucky enough that this guy has one of those as well?) and the wiring
harness for the rear wiper setup I got as well.

nate

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