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Old April 20th 06, 05:15 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
supreme court decisions.

This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
course.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/video/vid...p10436,00.html


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Old April 20th 06, 06:31 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
>
> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
> supreme court decisions.
>
> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
> course.


Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."

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Old April 20th 06, 06:49 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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In article >, jaybird wrote:
>
> "Brent P" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
>> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
>> supreme court decisions.
>>
>> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
>> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
>> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
>> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
>> course.


> Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
> working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."


You only consider it trolling because you're a government cheerleader.

It isn't anything like that at all. I don't see how it could be labeled
'liberal' at all unless you are as I always suspected, pro-police state.
Only the most ardent police state cheerleader would consider it 'liberal'
not to kick people out on the street with nothing, bulldozing their homes
using government power so a developer can put up new condos. Maybe a
bulldozer should show up at your home one day and plow it into the ground
so you'll understand exactly what it is like.

You should familiarize yourself with the new london case. Especially the
court decision afterwards that left the people who fought to keep their
homes with NOTHING, even less than nothing (debt) as a punishment for
fighting it.

You should watch the video again, you can see the cops there and learn
what you'll likely be doing in a few more years the way things are going.

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Old April 20th 06, 07:15 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >, jaybird wrote:
>>
>> "Brent P" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
>>> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
>>> supreme court decisions.
>>>
>>> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have
>>> too
>>> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london
>>> decision
>>> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
>>> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
>>> course.

>
>> Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
>> working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."

>
> You only consider it trolling because you're a government cheerleader.
>
> It isn't anything like that at all. I don't see how it could be labeled
> 'liberal' at all unless you are as I always suspected, pro-police state.
> Only the most ardent police state cheerleader would consider it 'liberal'
> not to kick people out on the street with nothing, bulldozing their homes
> using government power so a developer can put up new condos. Maybe a
> bulldozer should show up at your home one day and plow it into the ground
> so you'll understand exactly what it is like.
>
> You should familiarize yourself with the new london case. Especially the
> court decision afterwards that left the people who fought to keep their
> homes with NOTHING, even less than nothing (debt) as a punishment for
> fighting it.
>
> You should watch the video again, you can see the cops there and learn
> what you'll likely be doing in a few more years the way things are going.


You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class person
just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum, never asked the
government for money, and never done anything to cause myself to live in a
street and ask others to support me. I left home when I was able, supported
myself, and have made a pretty good living over the years.

It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads high,
doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.

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Old April 20th 06, 07:31 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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In article >, jaybird wrote:

> You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class person
> just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum, never asked the
> government for money, and never done anything to cause myself to live in a
> street and ask others to support me. I left home when I was able, supported
> myself, and have made a pretty good living over the years.


How is asking not to have your home bulldozed and being kicked out into
the street by the government "liberal" ? Don't you understand, it's the
'blue-collar-working-class' that is getting their homes bulldozed in
china so that new private developments can go up in their place. It is
'blue-collar-working-class' people in New London that were kicked out of
their homes to build a new private development. It's 'blue-collar-working-class' people
who have been kicked out of their homes in other parts of the USA for the
same thing.

When it's your home, and your ass out on the street, it won't be so
"liberal" to ask to be left the **** alone by the government.

> It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads high,
> doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law abiding
> citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.


So it's now criminal to want to keep your property, namely one's HOME? Guess
you've been getting that government training where property rights
activists are now considered to be "terrorists".

You can say it's not a police state, but then you follow it up with a
statement that shows it very well is.


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Old April 20th 06, 07:32 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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A very mild version of this happened right at home in Seattle
Washington. Seattle tried to put in a monorail. They took away
peoples property/land paying them market value for it. Once it was
realized that the monorail will never happen the city kept the land and
sold it to other people at a price much higher than they paid for it
since land prices had risen sharply since then.

Many people are still upset and in court about this. They believe the
land is still theres and should be sold back to them for what money
they were given for them in the first place.



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Old April 20th 06, 09:26 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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"Airman" > wrote in
oups.com:

> A very mild version of this happened right at home in Seattle
> Washington. Seattle tried to put in a monorail. They took away
> peoples property/land paying them market value for it. Once it was
> realized that the monorail will never happen the city kept the land and
> sold it to other people at a price much higher than they paid for it
> since land prices had risen sharply since then.
>
> Many people are still upset and in court about this. They believe the
> land is still theres and should be sold back to them for what money
> they were given for them in the first place.
>
>
>
> O2
>
>


Actually the profits from the increase in value should be returned to the
theft victims (rightful owners).Either way,I hope they succeed.

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Old April 20th 06, 09:32 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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(Brent P) wrote in
:

> In article >, jaybird wrote:
>
>> You wanna know why? It's because I'm a blue collar, working class
>> person just like most of us in here. I've never lived in a slum,
>> never asked the government for money, and never done anything to
>> cause myself to live in a street and ask others to support me. I
>> left home when I was able, supported myself, and have made a pretty
>> good living over the years.

>
> How is asking not to have your home bulldozed and being kicked out
> into the street by the government "liberal" ? Don't you understand,
> it's the 'blue-collar-working-class' that is getting their homes
> bulldozed in china so that new private developments can go up in their
> place. It is 'blue-collar-working-class' people in New London that
> were kicked out of their homes to build a new private development.
> It's 'blue-collar-working-class' people who have been kicked out of
> their homes in other parts of the USA for the same thing.
>
> When it's your home, and your ass out on the street, it won't be so
> "liberal" to ask to be left the **** alone by the government.
>
>> It's not about a police state, it's about people holding their heads
>> high, doing what's right, and making a living for themselves. Law
>> abiding citizens don't get jacked up by the cops.

>
> So it's now criminal to want to keep your property, namely one's HOME?
> Guess you've been getting that government training where property
> rights activists are now considered to be "terrorists".
>
> You can say it's not a police state, but then you follow it up with a
> statement that shows it very well is.
>
>
>


It's not a "police state",it's becoming a SOCIALIST State.
They are the ones who believe the state should have such powers,that people
need to surrender their property for the "good of all".(wealth
redistribution)
This is what you get when liberals get elected;they seat socialist USSC and
Federal judges who allow this sort of crap.
That is their political goal;to implement socialist change through court
rulings rather than amend the Constitution,because amendment is much more
difficult,as it was intended to be.

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Old April 20th 06, 11:37 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:31:49 GMT, "jaybird" > wrote:

>
>"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> I know this mostly off topic, but it deals with cursory subjects that
>> come out of the threads with regards to law enforcement, rights, and
>> supreme court decisions.
>>
>> This is the sort of thing that occurs when government and police have too
>> much power and property rights don't exist. Given the new london decision
>> by the supreme court and growing police power this is probably a window
>> into our future here in the USA unless something is done to reverse the
>> course.

>
>Quit trolling Brent. Just looks like another liberal "let's give our
>working class' money to the 'unfortunate'."


I don't think that showing how the government is riding roughshod over the
rights of its citizens, aided by _their_ local police, is "liberal". The issue
here is that the communist governments laws allow them to do that, and their
police simply happily go along with it. The inference is that there is no
barrier to the same thing happening here, other than us controlling our laws so
that it doesn't. If we fail to control our laws, _our_ police are going to
fall into line and trample people's rights because the supreme court said it is
OK. IOW, the inference is that the police will simply do what's legal, and
ignore what's right.

Dave Head
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Old April 20th 06, 11:57 AM posted to rec.autos.driving
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<<<<IOW, the inference is that the police will simply do what's legal,
and
ignore what's right. >>>>



AMEN!!! That's the first thing anyone has ever stated in this
Newsgroup that I can happily agree with. Congrats Dave Head.


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