Bandless automatic transmissions?

I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.

Any other bandless automatics out there?

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Tegger

Tegger wrote:

> I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
> years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.

I'd always read that the 604 was the first. I think most of them are
bandless now. Not that its a GOOD thing to be bandless... :-/

Ashton Crusher > wrote in
:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:49:19 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
> wrote:
>
>>I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
>>years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.
>>
>>Any other bandless automatics out there?
>
> I thought the GM turbohydomatics, ie the TH350 and TH400 and variants
> were all bandless. One of the reasons they are so durable.



One reply.

Either nobody really knows the answer to my question, or the question isn't
a very interesting one.

I checked out the THM. It seems the thing has kickdown and reverse bands,
so I guess it's not truly "bandless".

--
Tegger

Steve wrote:

> Tegger wrote:
>
>> I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
>> years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.
>
>
> I'd always read that the 604 was the first. I think most of them are
> bandless now. Not that its a GOOD thing to be bandless... :-/
>

Oops, the 604 was the first to have neither bands NOR overrunning
clutches. There were others without bands first, but they required OR
clutches.

The first semi automatic transmissions (with bands) were the Model T
Ford cars.I own a 1914 Model T Ford Runabout Roadster car.I bought the
car for $1,800 from a guy (his wife took my money,of course.Just like
that guy's wife took my $150.00 for my Blue Heeler Australian Cattle Dog
www.cattledog.com a few years ago.Doggy owns the couch here) in Sioux
Falls,South Dakota in November 1971.Soon after I bought my car,I ordered
a set of bands like the kind that are used in General Motors cars.The
bands came almost ready for me to install in my car.The instructions
said to use a hacksaw and cut an X in the middle of the bands.
cuhulin

Steve > wrote in
:

> Steve wrote:
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
>>> years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.
>>
>>
>> I'd always read that the 604 was the first. I think most of them are
>> bandless now. Not that its a GOOD thing to be bandless... :-/
>>
>
> Oops, the 604 was the first to have neither bands NOR overrunning
> clutches. There were others without bands first, but they required OR
> clutches.
>


Can you think of any other specific models that were bandless?

--
Tegger

On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:49:19 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
wrote:

>I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
>years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.
>
>Any other bandless automatics out there?

If you want to sit in front of the computer all day long to find out,
try this site...

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php

Happy hunting...

SteveL

wrote in
:

> On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:49:19 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
> wrote:
>
>>I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
>>years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.
>>
>>Any other bandless automatics out there?
>
> If you want to sit in front of the computer all day long to find out,
> try this site...
>
> http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php
>
> Happy hunting...
>


Hey, thanks. Next time I want to find out if Fairthorpe or Laforza used a
bandless auto tranny, I'll be sure to spend the rest of my life on
Rock Auto.

I was hoping some of the gurus who hang out in this group might know a few
models off the top of their heads. Some of them make a big deal about
having extensive automatic transmission experience, which is why I asked
here in the first place.

--
Tegger

On Sat, 26 May 2007 00:02:41 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
wrote:

wrote in
:
>> If you want to sit in front of the computer all day long to find out,
>> try this site...
>>
>> http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php
>>
>> Happy hunting...
>>
>
>
>Hey, thanks. Next time I want to find out if Fairthorpe or Laforza used a
>bandless auto tranny, I'll be sure to spend the rest of my life on
>Rock Auto.

You know, there is only so much information I can keep in my head, and
rockauto is where I keep the rest...

Steve(my brain is full)L

On Fri, 25 May 2007 21:36:54 GMT, wrote:

>On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:49:19 +0000 (UTC), Tegger >
>wrote:
>
>>I know Honda and Toyota have used bandless automatics for at least 20
>>years, and Chrysler's A604 was also bandless.
>>
>>Any other bandless automatics out there?
>
>If you want to sit in front of the computer all day long to find out,
>try this site...
>
>http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php
>
Sorry for the off topic, but what is a Bandless automatic transmissions, and how do they differ
from the normal band type transmission?
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