CD changer in dash flashing

"-Almazick-" > wrote in message
...
> Can you please tell me in 1 or 2 sentences what needs to be done inside of
> CD Changer and if you have a schematic for cd changer that's a big plus
for
> me..
>
>

Anyone with a background in VCR repair could probably fix the unit without
benefit of a schematic - as long as one of the chips on the board hasn't
gone
bad. This is one of those questions where if you have to ask, you don't
have
the skills to fix it.

Go to your local community college and take a 2 year program on electronic
service technology, when you get out of it you will know how to fix your CD
changer. Where exactly that qualifies you to work in these days of
disposable
cheap electronic gear from China, I have no clue.

Ted

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

> "-Almazick-" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Can you please tell me in 1 or 2 sentences what needs to be done inside of
>>CD Changer and if you have a schematic for cd changer that's a big plus
>
> for
>
>>me..
>>
>>
>
>
> Anyone with a background in VCR repair could probably fix the unit without
> benefit of a schematic - as long as one of the chips on the board hasn't
> gone
> bad. This is one of those questions where if you have to ask, you don't
> have
> the skills to fix it.
>
> Go to your local community college and take a 2 year program on electronic
> service technology, when you get out of it you will know how to fix your CD
> changer. Where exactly that qualifies you to work in these days of
> disposable
> cheap electronic gear from China, I have no clue.
>
> Ted

Hi Ted...

Please consider not even joking about suggesting it as a career for
young folks...

Until the Asian dirt cheap import situation changes you'd be better
off recommending they take a two year course in the maintenance
of hand crank starter systems

I guess I was lucky (?) enough to retire before 19 dollar disposable
stuff hit the market, but I sure have seen an awful lot of really
good service shops collapse since

Scary is the possibility that they (the Chinese) might make
disposable cars one day. Five to ten thousand bucks, a five
year guarantee, and they'll completely destroy yet another North
American industry.

Take care.

Ken

and what kind of car is a kia and Hyundai is ????

Ken Weitzel wrote:

> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > "-Almazick-" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Can you please tell me in 1 or 2 sentences what needs to be done inside of
> >>CD Changer and if you have a schematic for cd changer that's a big plus
> >
> > for
> >
> >>me..
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Anyone with a background in VCR repair could probably fix the unit without
> > benefit of a schematic - as long as one of the chips on the board hasn't
> > gone
> > bad. This is one of those questions where if you have to ask, you don't
> > have
> > the skills to fix it.
> >
> > Go to your local community college and take a 2 year program on electronic
> > service technology, when you get out of it you will know how to fix your CD
> > changer. Where exactly that qualifies you to work in these days of
> > disposable
> > cheap electronic gear from China, I have no clue.
> >
> > Ted
>
> Hi Ted...
>
> Please consider not even joking about suggesting it as a career for
> young folks...
>
> Until the Asian dirt cheap import situation changes you'd be better
> off recommending they take a two year course in the maintenance
> of hand crank starter systems
>
> I guess I was lucky (?) enough to retire before 19 dollar disposable
> stuff hit the market, but I sure have seen an awful lot of really
> good service shops collapse since
>
> Scary is the possibility that they (the Chinese) might make
> disposable cars one day. Five to ten thousand bucks, a five
> year guarantee, and they'll completely destroy yet another North
> American industry.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken

"Ken Weitzel" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> > "-Almazick-" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Can you please tell me in 1 or 2 sentences what needs to be done inside
of
> >>CD Changer and if you have a schematic for cd changer that's a big plus
> >
> > for
> >
> >>me..
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Anyone with a background in VCR repair could probably fix the unit
without
> > benefit of a schematic - as long as one of the chips on the board hasn't
> > gone
> > bad. This is one of those questions where if you have to ask, you don't
> > have
> > the skills to fix it.
> >
> > Go to your local community college and take a 2 year program on
electronic
> > service technology, when you get out of it you will know how to fix your
CD
> > changer. Where exactly that qualifies you to work in these days of
> > disposable
> > cheap electronic gear from China, I have no clue.
> >
> > Ted
>
> Hi Ted...
>
> Please consider not even joking about suggesting it as a career for
> young folks...
>

I took a year and 1 quarter of EST back in 1986, the first year was great
since it was all electronic theory, the second year was when we started
to get into repairing devices, it got boring real fast, it was pretty
obvious
even then that repairable devices with discrete components were not
going to last in the market.

> Until the Asian dirt cheap import situation changes you'd be better
> off recommending they take a two year course in the maintenance
> of hand crank starter systems
>

Oh no, I would never seriously tell anyone to go into EST today - do
they even still offer such?

We all know where the demographics are pointing - health care,
driven by the retiring baby boomers. If you can be a doctor or
a nurse you have it made, or a health system administrator, or
a malpractice lawyer. That's where the profitable jobs are going
to be.

> I guess I was lucky (?) enough to retire before 19 dollar disposable
> stuff hit the market, but I sure have seen an awful lot of really
> good service shops collapse since
>

Yeah, the only consumer electronics that are getting repaired anymore
are done under warranty, and so many of those warranty claims anymore
are being returned to a central national repair center in California or
some such where the repair tech does the same device all day long, so
they are so familiar with it they can just burn through the devices lickety
split.

Here's an example for you of how futile it is, about 5 years ago I
bought a car battery charger for about $50. I used it a couple times
over the year and one day I stupidly left it out overnight and it got rained
on while
plugged in. So I figured, busted bridge rectifier, I'll open it up and
have it replaced for a couple bucks. I opened it and discovered a
power transistor regulator controlled by a speciallized battery
charger chip. OK so I called the manufacturer, and bought a
replacement board with charger chip, about $15 plus $5 shipping.
While waiting for the board in the mail one day my wife says
"look on Ebay here someone is selling a battery charger" and
sure enough, same manufacturer and power rating of charger as
mine, older model, for sale $10, locally. I bid the $10 for the hell
of it, and sure enough, won the charger, drove over to the guys
house about 10 minutes away, bought charger. I still have the
brand new regulator board and the busted charger, I never got around
to fixing it. And, the older model charger I bought (with a simpler
circuit) has been rained on a couple times by accident since and didn't
die. Go figure.

It is nice to know how to fix the stuff, but it is so not cost effective
it's
rediculous. For example on the OP's problem, if it was mine I could
probably fix it - but it would mean at least 2 hours setting up the test
jig for it, figuring out where all the hidden screws are and pulling it
apart,
then if it didn't have a mechanical failure at least an hour on the phone
with
various places in California ordering the replacement logic board, then
another hour putting everything back together. And the logic board itself
would probably cost $150. And what you end up with is a changer that
is running, but has worn mechanicals inside of it, and is probably going
to jam up within a year just due to that.

And for the 4 hours spent screwing with it, I could spend that same
time doing air conditioning or brake work on my vehicle which would
save a -hell- of a lot more money, and spend 20 minutes buying an
iPod auto FM modulator and coupling that to a plain old factory AM/FM
radio in the car that is of zero interest to car stereo thieves and that I
could probably buy from a wrecker for $5.

> Scary is the possibility that they (the Chinese) might make
> disposable cars one day. Five to ten thousand bucks, a five
> year guarantee, and they'll completely destroy yet another North
> American industry.
>

Someone is going to have to repair them when they break down under
the 5 year warranty - it won't destroy the vehicle repair industry but
it will destroy the non-dealership repair industry.

Ted