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Old July 10th 03, 06:45 PM
BenignVanilla
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"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
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If you grab any rock that's under water from your pond and put it in the
tank it'll contain bacteria and will immediately cycle your tank.

snip

Would plants do the same? I had a tank in my home office that was opaque
with green algae. I was going to clean it, but the only inhabitant, a pl*co,
was growing like crazy. He seemed to really like the water. I tossed in some
anacharis from the pond, and topped the water off. Within days, the water
was gin clear.

BV.


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Old July 10th 03, 07:40 PM
John Hines
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"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
. ..
If you grab any rock that's under water from your pond and put it in the
tank it'll contain bacteria and will immediately cycle your tank.

snip

Would plants do the same? I had a tank in my home office that was opaque
with green algae. I was going to clean it, but the only inhabitant, a pl*co,
was growing like crazy. He seemed to really like the water. I tossed in some
anacharis from the pond, and topped the water off. Within days, the water
was gin clear.


Yep, everything in a pond or aquarium gets covered in bacteria.

It does help, otherwise it takes a couple of weeks for a bare sterile
tank to build up.
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Old July 10th 03, 08:30 PM
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"John Hines" wrote in message
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"BenignVanilla" m
wrote:

"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
. ..
If you grab any rock that's under water from your pond and put it in

the
tank it'll contain bacteria and will immediately cycle your tank.

snip

Would plants do the same? I had a tank in my home office that was opaque
with green algae. I was going to clean it, but the only inhabitant, a

pl*co,
was growing like crazy. He seemed to really like the water. I tossed in

some
anacharis from the pond, and topped the water off. Within days, the water
was gin clear.


Yep, everything in a pond or aquarium gets covered in bacteria.

It does help, otherwise it takes a couple of weeks for a bare sterile
tank to build up.


I have always wondered about this. If I take a 55 gallon tank, and fill it
with 54 gallons of water, and a gallon of bleach, surely everything in it
will be dead. Agreed? So how...weeks later is it full of beneficial
bacteria? Is this bacteria airborne?

Inquiring minds want to know.

BV.


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Old July 10th 03, 08:49 PM
Michael Grossman
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I just want to thank everyone on the newsgroup for their advise and support.
We moved our koi to a small preformed hospital pond yesterday. It's
probably 30-40 gallons. We used all water from the pond and put a few
hyacinths in too. The water is well oxygenated and I will keep a close eye
on the ammonia level. As far as the koi, there is no change in his
condition. I'm not real optimistic at this point that he will survive, but
I have seen stranger things. I just wish I knew what caused this so it
could be prevented.

Mike
"Sam Hopkins" wrote in message
.. .
If you grab any rock that's under water from your pond and put it in the
tank it'll contain bacteria and will immediately cycle your tank.

"Michael Grossman" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Bern,
My wife and I were just discussing the possibility of going out and

getting
an aquarium to use as a hospital tank. You think 20-40 gallons would be
good? Using pond water wouldn't be a big issue. It's been over 10

years
since I kept aquarium fish. I used to have salt water then switched to
african ciclids. If I use pond water, the water will be ok. But what

about
filtration. I don't have time to wait for a tank to cycle. I don't

even
know where to begin now. 10 years ago, an undergravel filter with a few
powerheads and an external power filter that hung on the back of the

tank
was all I used. For tonight I guess he will have to stay in the net

until
I
figure out what I need.

Mike

"Bern Muller" wrote in message
...

I have a new theory as to what happend to him. I believe he may

have
gotten
stuck against the pump sock which has a PrimaXL 3400gph pump in it.

Plus,
my wife dropped a few pieces of food in the net and he immediatly

surfaced
and ate every piece. Now we don't know what to do. Please Help???

I would be encouraged by his good appetite and willingness to go after

food.
If a hospital aquarium (20-40 gallon using pond water) is not an

option,
your net system will probably work well. You might cover the net with

more
netting to protect him from predators. I'd continue to feed him, and

give
him a week or so to heal. At the end of that time you will have an
indication of how things are going to turn out. He will either heal,

or
get
worse. If he stays exactly the same you will have to decide if you

want
to
keep a paraplegic fish, or euthanize him.








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Old July 10th 03, 11:34 PM
K30a
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BV wrote Is this bacteria airborne?

Yup, in the humble dust an entire eco-system
will be born.




k30a
 




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