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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
The heater/AC blower has gotten slightly flakey a few times lately where it just doesn't turn on with the switch but after trying it several times it eventually starts and runs fine. I can see in the Honda manual a few places that could cause this... underwood relay, the switch itself, the resistor pack, etc. Is there any track record for the 95 Del Sol/Civic cars as to the most likely failure point for this? |
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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
gmccx wrote:
> > The heater/AC blower has gotten slightly flakey a few times lately where > it just doesn't turn on with the switch but after trying it several > times it eventually starts and runs fine. > > I can see in the Honda manual a few places that could cause this... > underwood relay, the switch itself, the resistor pack, etc. > > Is there any track record for the 95 Del Sol/Civic cars as to the most > likely failure point for this? --------------------------------- Have you had problems with rain dripping on the passenger's floor in the past? 'Curly' |
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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> gmccx wrote: > >>The heater/AC blower has gotten slightly flakey a few times lately where >> it just doesn't turn on with the switch but after trying it several >>times it eventually starts and runs fine. >> >>I can see in the Honda manual a few places that could cause this... >>underwood relay, the switch itself, the resistor pack, etc. >> >>Is there any track record for the 95 Del Sol/Civic cars as to the most >>likely failure point for this? > > > --------------------------------- > > Have you had problems with rain dripping on the passenger's floor in the > past? > > 'Curly' Nope. I'm probably going to see about the relay first since the thing wouldn't run at any speed setting. And it's currently happening so rarely that it will be tough to narrow down. I just thought maybe one part or another of that vintage Civic/DelSol might have a track record of some particular component failing over time. (it's 10 years old but has only about 60K on it so far) |
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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
[answering myself here I guess] I pulled the relay and got it open for a look at the contacts. They were somewhat burned so I cleaned them up a bit, put the relay back and got it to not start within minutes. With the switch on and the fan motor not running I reached over and popped the bottom of the motor with my hand. It started right up. So I pulled the blower and eventually got it apart enough to see the commutator which had a few blacker than the others spots. I cleaned that all up with a small wire brush/Dremel tool and put it all back together. We'll see now what happens over some time, but I suspect that was it. Just a dead-ish spot on that commutator. And BTW, I got the distinct feeling that Honda did _not_ mean for that motor to be removed from the plastic housing for service. What a pain in the arse. 'Curly Q. Links' wrote: > gmccx wrote: > >>The heater/AC blower has gotten slightly flakey a few times lately where >> it just doesn't turn on with the switch but after trying it several >>times it eventually starts and runs fine. >> >>I can see in the Honda manual a few places that could cause this... >>underwood relay, the switch itself, the resistor pack, etc. >> >>Is there any track record for the 95 Del Sol/Civic cars as to the most >>likely failure point for this? > > > --------------------------------- > > Have you had problems with rain dripping on the passenger's floor in the > past? > > 'Curly' |
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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
gmccx wrote:
> > [answering myself here I guess] > > I pulled the relay and got it open for a look at the contacts. They were > somewhat burned so I cleaned them up a bit, put the relay back and got > it to not start within minutes. With the switch on and the fan motor not > running I reached over and popped the bottom of the motor with my hand. > It started right up. > > So I pulled the blower and eventually got it apart enough to see the > commutator which had a few blacker than the others spots. I cleaned that > all up with a small wire brush/Dremel tool and put it all back together. > We'll see now what happens over some time, but I suspect that was it. > Just a dead-ish spot on that commutator. > > And BTW, I got the distinct feeling that Honda did _not_ mean for that > motor to be removed from the plastic housing for service. What a pain in > the arse. ---------------------------------- The blower fan / motor on the Gen 1 Odyssey and the Gen 1 CR-V just fall out on the floor after you unplug them and remove three screws. That's good you found the 'dead' spot. I wonder about the Dremmel tool though. :-( 'Curly' |
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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> gmccx wrote: > >>[answering myself here I guess] >> >>I pulled the relay and got it open for a look at the contacts. They were >>somewhat burned so I cleaned them up a bit, put the relay back and got >>it to not start within minutes. With the switch on and the fan motor not >>running I reached over and popped the bottom of the motor with my hand. >>It started right up. >> >>So I pulled the blower and eventually got it apart enough to see the >>commutator which had a few blacker than the others spots. I cleaned that >>all up with a small wire brush/Dremel tool and put it all back together. >>We'll see now what happens over some time, but I suspect that was it. >>Just a dead-ish spot on that commutator. >> >>And BTW, I got the distinct feeling that Honda did _not_ mean for that >>motor to be removed from the plastic housing for service. What a pain in >>the arse. > > > ---------------------------------- > > The blower fan / motor on the Gen 1 Odyssey and the Gen 1 CR-V just fall > out on the floor after you unplug them and remove three screws. That's > good you found the 'dead' spot. I wonder about the Dremmel tool though. > :-( > The blower assembly removed just like that - three screws. The PIA part was getting the fan off the shaft and getting the motor out of the plastic housing such that I could even See the brushes/commutator. Dremmel tool... couldn't live without it. I used a small cup shaped wire brush attachment (maybe 3/8" dia.) to clean off the contacts of the commutator. Works pretty well for that because I don't really want to remove a lot of metal but rather just get all the oxidized and non-metallic stuff off there. |
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95 Del Sol VTEC intermittent fan problem
gmccx wrote:
> The blower assembly removed just like that - three screws. The PIA part > was getting the fan off the shaft and getting the motor out of the > plastic housing such that I could even See the brushes/commutator. > > Dremmel tool... couldn't live without it. I used a small cup shaped wire > brush attachment (maybe 3/8" dia.) to clean off the contacts of the > commutator. Works pretty well for that because I don't really want to > remove a lot of metal but rather just get all the oxidized and > non-metallic stuff off there. ------------------------------------ I get you. I was picturing the Carbide cut-off wheels. Luv 'em !! I always use the air hose inside that plastic cover to blow out all the shed carbon powder. Also end up looking like a bad Al Jolson impersonator. :-( Stay safe. 'Curly' |
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