The $500 Prius car key....

wrote:
> Real Good simple cars and trucks like the ones made in the 1960s and
> earlier would sell like Hot Cakes nowadays.Who needs all that new
> fangled electronic gadgetry anyway? I Don't! When I get in my old van,
> all I want to do is drive from Point A to Point B, and or C and D,
> depending on whatever erran(s) /shopping I need to do.
> cuhulin
>

Convertible owners know that keys are useless against any
jerk with a pocket knife.

Ignition switch on, starter button under the dash. No problem.

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Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Reed > wrote in
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>
>> The Q is: What to do.
>
> Don't buy a late-model car. They are all about the same because of the
> anti-theft features built in to these keys and remotes.
>
> Just wait til you lose your last key and the car has to be towed to
> the dealer to have it re-programmed to accept new keys !!
>
> When a Volvo owner did this in North Dakota, and the nearest dealer
> was hundreds of miles away, he rented a metal detector and found the
> key after about 3 hours of searching.
>
>

I wish my 1994 Integra GS-R had used a $100 programmed key.
It was stolen, stripped and torched in 2007,total loss,along with the
automotive tools I had in the trunk.
Those programmed keys are a great anti-theft measure.
Of course,there's really no reason for replacements to cost $100 or more.
that's just greed.


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Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
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dot com

When I was in Vietnam in 1964, sometimes I would catch a ride in those
old red and blue Renault taxis.A few wires hanging down from beneath the
dash board under the ignition switch.They didn't need any steenkin keys
at all.They would twist a couple of wires together and hold another wire
against the other wires,,, those old smokey Renault taxis were ready to
go!
cuhulin

On Apr 7, 4:56*am, "hls" > wrote:
> > The Q is: *What to do.
> > --
> > EA
>
> I agree.. I dont like it either. *We have gadgetry overkill in just about
> all newer cars now.
>
> There is nothing really that you can do about it except to write the
> manufacturers and let your dissent be heard. *
>
> GM never listened in the past. *Maybe the survivors have learned
> a little.

It doesn't take a genius to see that keyless entry and starting is the
future. I'd rather they just embed an RFID chip on me and never have
to deal with keys again.

"AMuzi" > wrote in message news:inkq53$eg3>
> Convertible owners know that keys are useless against any
> jerk with a pocket knife.
>
> Ignition switch on, starter button under the dash. No problem.
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi

At least partially true...I have a rather new Solara convertible.
I have no doubt that some scumbag would cut the top if he or
she saw a pack of chewing gum inside that could be stolen.
Now, whether he could start the car even once inside is another
story. I rather doubt it.

I have a 90 Reatta that usually wont start when I put the right key
in. It was a nice car but with so much electronics built into
it that it is chronically unreliable.

On 4/6/2011 19:08, Existential Angst wrote:
> Has this been discussed here?
>
> If we let car companies get away with $500 keys, then we have basically
> pulled our pants down to our ankles, lubed ourselves up, painted a bullseye
> on our asses, bent over, and are screaming, C'mon, shove it in
> deeper/harder....
> **** Prius and their car key.
>
> My Honda **** key is $150. I put a dog chain on it, keep it around my
> neck, and sleep and shower with it.
>
> We are fukn assholes to tolerate bull**** like this.
> The Q is: What to do.

Tape the key under the dash, and have another non chipped key made. The
proximity of the chipped key to the ignition will let the car start with
a normal key. At least this worked on my brother's Explorer.



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Steve Walker
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Steve Walker wrote:
>
> On 4/6/2011 19:08, Existential Angst wrote:
> > Has this been discussed here?
> >
> > If we let car companies get away with $500 keys, then we have basically
> > pulled our pants down to our ankles, lubed ourselves up, painted a bullseye
> > on our asses, bent over, and are screaming, C'mon, shove it in
> > deeper/harder....
> > **** Prius and their car key.
> >
> > My Honda **** key is $150. I put a dog chain on it, keep it around my
> > neck, and sleep and shower with it.
> >
> > We are fukn assholes to tolerate bull**** like this.
> > The Q is: What to do.
>
> Tape the key under the dash, and have another non chipped key made. The
> proximity of the chipped key to the ignition will let the car start with
> a normal key. At least this worked on my brother's Explorer.

Or just find a dealer that doesn't put a 1000% markup on the damned
keys. At my dealer I got two extra chip keys for my truck for $8 each,
cut by the dealer and programmed by me.

Evan Platt wrote:
>
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 19:08:57 -0400, "Existential Angst"
> > wrote:
>
> >Has this been discussed here?
> >
> >If we let car companies get away with $500 keys, then we have basically
> >pulled our pants down to our ankles, lubed ourselves up, painted a bullseye
> >on our asses, bent over, and are screaming, C'mon, shove it in
> >deeper/harder....
> >**** Prius and their car key.
> >
> >My Honda **** key is $150. I put a dog chain on it, keep it around my
> >neck, and sleep and shower with it.
> >
> >We are fukn assholes to tolerate bull**** like this.
> >The Q is: What to do.
>
> Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
>
> People complain that their car is too easy to hotwire. So they build
> electronics into the keys. Which of course make the keys more
> expensive.

RFID chips make the keys more expensive by about $0.50, scummy dealers
are the ones charging 1000% markup on those keys. I got my chip keys
from my non-scummy dealer for $8 each cut and programmed them myself in
about 10 minutes.

A few days ago, in my local area, I saw on TV news a woman stepped into
a store for a minute, she left her two years old kid in her SUV and the
key in the ignition switch.While she was in the store, somebody stold
her SUV.When he discovered the kid was in the back seat, he parked the
SUV way over in another part of town.

Things similiar to that happen very often all over America.Dummies
leaving the key in the ignition switch.It only takes a second for a
thief to jump in there and get going.Those Dummies might as well put a
sign on their vehicle,,, Steal This Vehicle Please!
cuhulin

"Pete C." > wrote in message
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>
> Steve Walker wrote:
>>
>> On 4/6/2011 19:08, Existential Angst wrote:
>> > Has this been discussed here?
>> >
>> > If we let car companies get away with $500 keys, then we have basically
>> > pulled our pants down to our ankles, lubed ourselves up, painted a
>> > bullseye
>> > on our asses, bent over, and are screaming, C'mon, shove it in
>> > deeper/harder....
>> > **** Prius and their car key.
>> >
>> > My Honda **** key is $150. I put a dog chain on it, keep it around my
>> > neck, and sleep and shower with it.
>> >
>> > We are fukn assholes to tolerate bull**** like this.
>> > The Q is: What to do.
>>
>> Tape the key under the dash, and have another non chipped key made. The
>> proximity of the chipped key to the ignition will let the car start with
>> a normal key. At least this worked on my brother's Explorer.
>
> Or just find a dealer that doesn't put a 1000% markup on the damned
> keys. At my dealer I got two extra chip keys for my truck for $8 each,
> cut by the dealer and programmed by me.

What's involved in programming the keys?

$500 for a $5 key is actually a 10,000% markup. 1,000% is modest....
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EA