AX-15 problem

My rig every February/March gets nearly impossible to shift into first.
usually have to double clutch . She also gets very "notchy" into second
and third.
I rarely go right into reverse I usually go into second first than over
to reverse or I might grind.

A couple days ago I could not get it out of reverse until I turned off
the motor.

Past two years I change the tranny fluid and the problem goes away in a
couple weeks. Im going to change my tranny fluid again. I always use
redline.

My ? is what the hells going on? I only put 3,000 , miles on my rig
every year. No leaking at all.


Prior owners receipts show the Clutch, slave cyl changed at 108,000
miles and flywheel resurfaced as well. Im at 124,700 now.

Refill your clutch reservoir with brake fluid. You may have to
bleed it's slave
too, to have the clutch again.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

ufatbastehd wrote:
>
> My rig every February/March gets nearly impossible to shift into first.
> usually have to double clutch . She also gets very "notchy" into second
> and third.
> I rarely go right into reverse I usually go into second first than over
> to reverse or I might grind.
>
> A couple days ago I could not get it out of reverse until I turned off
> the motor.
>
> Past two years I change the tranny fluid and the problem goes away in a
> couple weeks. Im going to change my tranny fluid again. I always use
> redline.
>
> My ? is what the hells going on? I only put 3,000 , miles on my rig
> every year. No leaking at all.
>
> Prior owners receipts show the Clutch, slave cyl changed at 108,000
> miles and flywheel resurfaced as well. Im at 124,700 now.

Water contamination?

That tranny does not have a high water vent, just a button vent so if
you get in too deep or splash right water can get in.

Does the fluid come out milky or like new? If even slightly milky, you
have likely found the problem.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

ufatbastehd wrote:
>
> My rig every February/March gets nearly impossible to shift into first.
> usually have to double clutch . She also gets very "notchy" into second
> and third.
> I rarely go right into reverse I usually go into second first than over
> to reverse or I might grind.
>
> A couple days ago I could not get it out of reverse until I turned off
> the motor.
>
> Past two years I change the tranny fluid and the problem goes away in a
> couple weeks. Im going to change my tranny fluid again. I always use
> redline.
>
> My ? is what the hells going on? I only put 3,000 , miles on my rig
> every year. No leaking at all.
>
> Prior owners receipts show the Clutch, slave cyl changed at 108,000
> miles and flywheel resurfaced as well. Im at 124,700 now.

You are describing a problem with the Clutch Master Cylinder.



"ufatbastehd" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> My rig every February/March gets nearly impossible to shift into first.
> usually have to double clutch . She also gets very "notchy" into second
> and third.
> I rarely go right into reverse I usually go into second first than over
> to reverse or I might grind.
>
> A couple days ago I could not get it out of reverse until I turned off
> the motor.
>
> Past two years I change the tranny fluid and the problem goes away in a
> couple weeks. Im going to change my tranny fluid again. I always use
> redline.
>
> My ? is what the hells going on? I only put 3,000 , miles on my rig
> every year. No leaking at all.
>
>
> Prior owners receipts show the Clutch, slave cyl changed at 108,000
> miles and flywheel resurfaced as well. Im at 124,700 now.
>

Thanks for the replies But if it is a Master Cyl prob why would this
happen every Feb/March like clockwork??? This will be year three that
this has happened.
Always goes away when I change the fluid.

I will check the Master Cyl Level and also change the tranny fluid this
weekend and report on the color of the fluid.

Maybe it is water contamination? Had lots of snow here in NYC and I
like to park on the biggest snow mounds I can find. I never got to the
point where the bottom of the tranny is resting in snow. Nor did I go
through any deep water.


Jeff Strickland wrote:
> You are describing a problem with the Clutch Master Cylinder.
>
>
>
> "ufatbastehd" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> > My rig every February/March gets nearly impossible to shift into
first.
> > usually have to double clutch . She also gets very "notchy" into
second
> > and third.
> > I rarely go right into reverse I usually go into second first than
over
> > to reverse or I might grind.
> >
> > A couple days ago I could not get it out of reverse until I turned
off
> > the motor.
> >
> > Past two years I change the tranny fluid and the problem goes away
in a
> > couple weeks. Im going to change my tranny fluid again. I always
use
> > redline.
> >
> > My ? is what the hells going on? I only put 3,000 , miles on my rig
> > every year. No leaking at all.
> >
> >
> > Prior owners receipts show the Clutch, slave cyl changed at 108,000
> > miles and flywheel resurfaced as well. Im at 124,700 now.
> >

The problem could be related to weather not the calendar. Water
contamination is certainly a possibility.

If the clutch master cylinder is the problem, you can test it by pumping the
clutch pedal a few times before selecting a gear. If a single pump of the
pedal results in troubles selecting the gear, and multiple pumps result in
easy gear selection, then you need a new master cylinder.

I suspect the fluid change for the trans is masking a problem, at best. If
pumping the clutch pedal results inthe same gear selection troubles, then
your master cylinder is OK, and moving to the transmission itself is the
right thing to do.




"ufatbastehd" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Thanks for the replies But if it is a Master Cyl prob why would this
> happen every Feb/March like clockwork??? This will be year three that
> this has happened.
> Always goes away when I change the fluid.
>
> I will check the Master Cyl Level and also change the tranny fluid this
> weekend and report on the color of the fluid.
>
> Maybe it is water contamination? Had lots of snow here in NYC and I
> like to park on the biggest snow mounds I can find. I never got to the
> point where the bottom of the tranny is resting in snow. Nor did I go
> through any deep water.
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> > You are describing a problem with the Clutch Master Cylinder.
> >
> >
> >
> > "ufatbastehd" > wrote in message
> > oups.com...
> > > My rig every February/March gets nearly impossible to shift into
> first.
> > > usually have to double clutch . She also gets very "notchy" into
> second
> > > and third.
> > > I rarely go right into reverse I usually go into second first than
> over
> > > to reverse or I might grind.
> > >
> > > A couple days ago I could not get it out of reverse until I turned
> off
> > > the motor.
> > >
> > > Past two years I change the tranny fluid and the problem goes away
> in a
> > > couple weeks. Im going to change my tranny fluid again. I always
> use
> > > redline.
> > >
> > > My ? is what the hells going on? I only put 3,000 , miles on my rig
> > > every year. No leaking at all.
> > >
> > >
> > > Prior owners receipts show the Clutch, slave cyl changed at 108,000
> > > miles and flywheel resurfaced as well. Im at 124,700 now.
> > >
>

Follow-up

well I never changed my tranny fluid, instead pumped the clutch a few
times before starting out or if I couldnt get into a gear to see if
that helped and it did help alot.

Now when I start the rig I pump the clutch 2-3 times and she shifts
into gear.
But here is the rub-before I was having trouble in 1st 2nd and 3rd and
rev gears now the weather has gone up to above 40 the only time she is
hard to shift is the first shift of the day-even on rainy days.
Besides that she is shifting smooth again, well as smooth as an ax15
with 125,000 mile can shift.

The clutch slave and master cyl were replaced and the flywheel had
been resurfaced by the PO at 108,000 . Ths master cyl level is full.