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Old December 10th 04, 01:11 PM
Bob
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Default 2005 Passat GLX?

I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was told
by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
new model design changes.

Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?
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Old December 10th 04, 04:38 PM
KokomoKid
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"Bob" > wrote in message
. 14...
> I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was

told
> by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
> new model design changes.
>
> Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?


According to vw.com, there is an '05 GLX 4-motion.


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Old December 10th 04, 04:38 PM
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"Bob" > wrote in message
. 14...
> I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was

told
> by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
> new model design changes.
>
> Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?


According to vw.com, there is an '05 GLX 4-motion.


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Old December 10th 04, 05:38 PM
Rob Guenther
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There's a new model coming for 2006 to replace the current Passat.

Sounds like they don't want to find you a car. - They want to get rid of
what they have on lot, not bring other stuff in.
"Bob" > wrote in message
. 14...
>I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was told
> by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
> new model design changes.
>
> Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?



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Old December 10th 04, 05:38 PM
Rob Guenther
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There's a new model coming for 2006 to replace the current Passat.

Sounds like they don't want to find you a car. - They want to get rid of
what they have on lot, not bring other stuff in.
"Bob" > wrote in message
. 14...
>I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was told
> by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
> new model design changes.
>
> Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?



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Old December 10th 04, 07:54 PM
KokomoKid
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This is a rare case, to me at least, where I would not be sure whether to
buy now, or wait on the new one (assuming I didn't "need" a new car now).
Normally each major redesign of a car is better than the one it replaces and
I'd be inclined to wait for the new one, but with the upcoming Passat, I've
read that they are going to "deAudify" it and go to a transverse engine
power train more like Golf, et. al. That may not even be a disadvantage,
but it seems like a "cheapening" of the Passat to make it less like an Audi.
In reality, the longitudinal engine might be slightly better for the AWD
cars, and slightly worse for the FWD's.


"Rob Guenther" > wrote in message
...
> There's a new model coming for 2006 to replace the current Passat.
>
> Sounds like they don't want to find you a car. - They want to get rid of
> what they have on lot, not bring other stuff in.
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> . 14...
> >I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was

told
> > by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
> > new model design changes.
> >
> > Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?

>
>



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Old December 10th 04, 07:54 PM
KokomoKid
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This is a rare case, to me at least, where I would not be sure whether to
buy now, or wait on the new one (assuming I didn't "need" a new car now).
Normally each major redesign of a car is better than the one it replaces and
I'd be inclined to wait for the new one, but with the upcoming Passat, I've
read that they are going to "deAudify" it and go to a transverse engine
power train more like Golf, et. al. That may not even be a disadvantage,
but it seems like a "cheapening" of the Passat to make it less like an Audi.
In reality, the longitudinal engine might be slightly better for the AWD
cars, and slightly worse for the FWD's.


"Rob Guenther" > wrote in message
...
> There's a new model coming for 2006 to replace the current Passat.
>
> Sounds like they don't want to find you a car. - They want to get rid of
> what they have on lot, not bring other stuff in.
> "Bob" > wrote in message
> . 14...
> >I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was

told
> > by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of upcoming
> > new model design changes.
> >
> > Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?

>
>



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Old December 11th 04, 12:49 AM
Rob Guenther
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It's true, they're going to a stretched Golf V platform... Which means in
the end they can save money on the car, which means they can use other
components less prone to breaking on the Passat, Golf, and Jetta since the
Passat is now helping to pay for Golf/Jetta development costs... either that
or we will be getting more stuff with the car for the same prices.... Most
FWDs use transverse engines, and the Passat seems to be mainly FWD with a
few 4Motions, makes sense to use transverse mounting. Other European
manufacturers has FWD/AWD with transverse engines without problems - they
are safer too... You have a same sized hood, with the engine turned
sideways - means more crush space - why do you think Volvo abandoned
longitudinal mounting (they even cram an line 6 sideways!!! World first
apparently.... all in the name of safety... so in this regard I see it as a
good thing for VWs too).

De-Audi-ing the Passat won't be hard to do... I don't see much Audi in it
right now aside from the platform... It doesn't feel like one inside, nor
does it drive like one... The current base model is a little too soft for
me... And I couldn't afford anything more upmarket then $31-32k CND... so
the base model is IT for me, which is why I'm excited about the newer bigger
Jetta - I need more space, not more luxury features over my GLS Golf. I bet
the new Passat is going to start where the current base V6 is, and the Jetta
will cover the old 1.8T Passat with cloth and no options position in the
lineup (still a damn nice car, aside from the suspension tuning).

If VW goes slightly upmarket with the base Passat, doesn't reach as far as
the W8 version did (but a high output V6 which can smoke an Altima 3.5SE and
a Honda Accord V6 is DEFINATELY needed and at a competitive price!) then
covers lost ground from the previous base Passat with the larger Jetta GLS,
and goes far enough downmarket to make people cross shop the 2.3L Mazda 3
against the Jetta GL... Then leave the Golf/Jetta CL (they need to bring it
back... many people want a cheapened Jetta because they don't want to drive
a hatchback) to take on the 2.0L Mazda 3, Corolla, Civic, Focus etc, then
introduce the Polo sedan to kick some Hyundai/Kia ass (small cars are BIG in
Canada... the Polo would sell, inculding the hatch version, hell I bet the
Lupo could take on the Echo Hatchback)

They should actually being back the W8 engine and this highout put V6 engine
I dreamed about in a car slightly larger then the Passat, but below the
Pheaton to take on cars like the S80, Acura RL, Lexus LS/GS.... Not quite
sport sedans tho they are very capable (especially the Acura), very
luxurious, but much more attainable... sell it for Touareg money.... Audi is
there more sporty brand, VW could build some luxury cars if they left the
BMW/Benz fighting to Audi... There are some people who don't want one, but
want a nice big leather lined car.
"KokomoKid" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> This is a rare case, to me at least, where I would not be sure whether to
> buy now, or wait on the new one (assuming I didn't "need" a new car now).
> Normally each major redesign of a car is better than the one it replaces
> and
> I'd be inclined to wait for the new one, but with the upcoming Passat,
> I've
> read that they are going to "deAudify" it and go to a transverse engine
> power train more like Golf, et. al. That may not even be a disadvantage,
> but it seems like a "cheapening" of the Passat to make it less like an
> Audi.
> In reality, the longitudinal engine might be slightly better for the AWD
> cars, and slightly worse for the FWD's.
>
>
> "Rob Guenther" > wrote in message
> ...
>> There's a new model coming for 2006 to replace the current Passat.
>>
>> Sounds like they don't want to find you a car. - They want to get rid of
>> what they have on lot, not bring other stuff in.
>> "Bob" > wrote in message
>> . 14...
>> >I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was

> told
>> > by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of
>> > upcoming
>> > new model design changes.
>> >
>> > Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?

>>
>>

>
>



  #9  
Old December 11th 04, 12:49 AM
Rob Guenther
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It's true, they're going to a stretched Golf V platform... Which means in
the end they can save money on the car, which means they can use other
components less prone to breaking on the Passat, Golf, and Jetta since the
Passat is now helping to pay for Golf/Jetta development costs... either that
or we will be getting more stuff with the car for the same prices.... Most
FWDs use transverse engines, and the Passat seems to be mainly FWD with a
few 4Motions, makes sense to use transverse mounting. Other European
manufacturers has FWD/AWD with transverse engines without problems - they
are safer too... You have a same sized hood, with the engine turned
sideways - means more crush space - why do you think Volvo abandoned
longitudinal mounting (they even cram an line 6 sideways!!! World first
apparently.... all in the name of safety... so in this regard I see it as a
good thing for VWs too).

De-Audi-ing the Passat won't be hard to do... I don't see much Audi in it
right now aside from the platform... It doesn't feel like one inside, nor
does it drive like one... The current base model is a little too soft for
me... And I couldn't afford anything more upmarket then $31-32k CND... so
the base model is IT for me, which is why I'm excited about the newer bigger
Jetta - I need more space, not more luxury features over my GLS Golf. I bet
the new Passat is going to start where the current base V6 is, and the Jetta
will cover the old 1.8T Passat with cloth and no options position in the
lineup (still a damn nice car, aside from the suspension tuning).

If VW goes slightly upmarket with the base Passat, doesn't reach as far as
the W8 version did (but a high output V6 which can smoke an Altima 3.5SE and
a Honda Accord V6 is DEFINATELY needed and at a competitive price!) then
covers lost ground from the previous base Passat with the larger Jetta GLS,
and goes far enough downmarket to make people cross shop the 2.3L Mazda 3
against the Jetta GL... Then leave the Golf/Jetta CL (they need to bring it
back... many people want a cheapened Jetta because they don't want to drive
a hatchback) to take on the 2.0L Mazda 3, Corolla, Civic, Focus etc, then
introduce the Polo sedan to kick some Hyundai/Kia ass (small cars are BIG in
Canada... the Polo would sell, inculding the hatch version, hell I bet the
Lupo could take on the Echo Hatchback)

They should actually being back the W8 engine and this highout put V6 engine
I dreamed about in a car slightly larger then the Passat, but below the
Pheaton to take on cars like the S80, Acura RL, Lexus LS/GS.... Not quite
sport sedans tho they are very capable (especially the Acura), very
luxurious, but much more attainable... sell it for Touareg money.... Audi is
there more sporty brand, VW could build some luxury cars if they left the
BMW/Benz fighting to Audi... There are some people who don't want one, but
want a nice big leather lined car.
"KokomoKid" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> This is a rare case, to me at least, where I would not be sure whether to
> buy now, or wait on the new one (assuming I didn't "need" a new car now).
> Normally each major redesign of a car is better than the one it replaces
> and
> I'd be inclined to wait for the new one, but with the upcoming Passat,
> I've
> read that they are going to "deAudify" it and go to a transverse engine
> power train more like Golf, et. al. That may not even be a disadvantage,
> but it seems like a "cheapening" of the Passat to make it less like an
> Audi.
> In reality, the longitudinal engine might be slightly better for the AWD
> cars, and slightly worse for the FWD's.
>
>
> "Rob Guenther" > wrote in message
> ...
>> There's a new model coming for 2006 to replace the current Passat.
>>
>> Sounds like they don't want to find you a car. - They want to get rid of
>> what they have on lot, not bring other stuff in.
>> "Bob" > wrote in message
>> . 14...
>> >I decided to shop around for a 2005 Passat GLX V6 with 4Motion and was

> told
>> > by a dealer that VW will not make many of these cars because of
>> > upcoming
>> > new model design changes.
>> >
>> > Does this make sense or just some salesman BS?

>>
>>

>
>



 




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