GTL USES STARFARCE????

Oh CRAP!

I just bought GT Legends from Best Buy and open it up and what do I find,
but a StarForce code.

WTF? Why do these smaller publisher's go with StarForce? Dammit, now I'm
considering not installing it at all.

I used to think that I never had a problem with StarForce. But after reading
a bunch about StarForce, and having two CD-RW/DVD-ROM drives fail, I realize
it is highly likely StarForce with Silent Hunter III. Ever since I got my
THIRD CD-RW/DVD-ROM replaced by the online store I ordered it from, I
haven't had any issues, and haven't installed SH3 yet either.

Maybe just coincidence but smells fishy to me!

I don't mean to complain, but is there any way to remove that copy
protection?

Thanks!

"HockeyTownUSA" <magma at comcast dot net> wrote in message
...
> Oh CRAP!
>
> I just bought GT Legends from Best Buy and open it up and what do I find,
> but a StarForce code.
>
> WTF? Why do these smaller publisher's go with StarForce? Dammit, now I'm
> considering not installing it at all.
>
> I used to think that I never had a problem with StarForce. But after
> reading a bunch about StarForce, and having two CD-RW/DVD-ROM drives fail,
> I realize it is highly likely StarForce with Silent Hunter III. Ever since
> I got my THIRD CD-RW/DVD-ROM replaced by the online store I ordered it
> from, I haven't had any issues, and haven't installed SH3 yet either.
>
> Maybe just coincidence but smells fishy to me!
>
> I don't mean to complain, but is there any way to remove that copy
> protection?
>
> Thanks!
>
yep, on the starforce web page they have an uninstaller iirc. Google it..

But if you unstall the SF the game wont run either.
John Smith enlightened us with:
> "HockeyTownUSA" <magma at comcast dot net> wrote in message
> ...
>> Oh CRAP!
>>
>> I just bought GT Legends from Best Buy and open it up and what do I
>> find, but a StarForce code.
>>
>> WTF? Why do these smaller publisher's go with StarForce? Dammit, now
>> I'm considering not installing it at all.
>>
>> I used to think that I never had a problem with StarForce. But after
>> reading a bunch about StarForce, and having two CD-RW/DVD-ROM drives
>> fail, I realize it is highly likely StarForce with Silent Hunter
>> III. Ever since I got my THIRD CD-RW/DVD-ROM replaced by the online
>> store I ordered it from, I haven't had any issues, and haven't
>> installed SH3 yet either. Maybe just coincidence but smells fishy to me!
>>
>> I don't mean to complain, but is there any way to remove that copy
>> protection?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> yep, on the starforce web page they have an uninstaller iirc. Google
> it..

SafeDisc 4

PlowBoy wrote:
> But if you unstall the SF the game wont run either.
> John Smith enlightened us with:
>> "HockeyTownUSA" <magma at comcast dot net> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Oh CRAP!
>>>
>>> I just bought GT Legends from Best Buy and open it up and what do I
>>> find, but a StarForce code.
>>>
>>> WTF? Why do these smaller publisher's go with StarForce? Dammit, now
>>> I'm considering not installing it at all.
>>>
>>> I used to think that I never had a problem with StarForce. But after
>>> reading a bunch about StarForce, and having two CD-RW/DVD-ROM drives
>>> fail, I realize it is highly likely StarForce with Silent Hunter
>>> III. Ever since I got my THIRD CD-RW/DVD-ROM replaced by the online
>>> store I ordered it from, I haven't had any issues, and haven't
>>> installed SH3 yet either. Maybe just coincidence but smells fishy to me!
>>>
>>> I don't mean to complain, but is there any way to remove that copy
>>> protection?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>> yep, on the starforce web page they have an uninstaller iirc. Google
>> it..
>
>

magma at comcast dot net (HockeyTownUSA) wrote:

> Oh CRAP!

I think we simply have to get used to developers protecting their work
like this. I don't like it, but I love GTL, so I'm living with it and
haven't -- so far -- noticed any problems associated with it.

The Starforce on LOMAC 1.1 is worse, because you only get a limited number
of installations. Ok, it's 15 these days, with more if you ask nicely, I
believe. But that bothers me *far* more than the protection on GTL.

Andrew McP

So, with these phone-home protection systems...

What happens if the developer goes under and the servers aren't home any
more.

Anyone thought of that?

That is my primary problem with "Activation" systems, be it software or
digital music.

-Larry

"Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in message
dress_disguised...
> magma at comcast dot net (HockeyTownUSA) wrote:
>
>> Oh CRAP!
>
> I think we simply have to get used to developers protecting their work
> like this. I don't like it, but I love GTL, so I'm living with it and
> haven't -- so far -- noticed any problems associated with it.
>
> The Starforce on LOMAC 1.1 is worse, because you only get a limited number
> of installations. Ok, it's 15 these days, with more if you ask nicely, I
> believe. But that bothers me *far* more than the protection on GTL.
>
> Andrew McP
>

Lomac FC (DL version) has (on their site iirc) a registry backup utility.
Makes re-install a breeze and unlimited. In fact I used it recently without
hiccups.

Mitch

"Andrew MacPherson"
> The Starforce on LOMAC 1.1 is worse, because you only get a limited number
> of installations. Ok, it's 15 these days, with more if you ask nicely, I
> believe. But that bothers me *far* more than the protection on GTL.
>
> Andrew McP
>

I'm sure Microsoft will come running to our aid with a relatively cheap fix
if any company goes under.

Andi.

"Larry" > wrote in message
news:8H1Gf.162391$oG.68961@dukeread02...
> So, with these phone-home protection systems...
>
> What happens if the developer goes under and the servers aren't home any
> more.
>
> Anyone thought of that?
>
> That is my primary problem with "Activation" systems, be it software or
> digital music.
>
> -Larry
>
> "Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in message
> dress_disguised...
>> magma at comcast dot net (HockeyTownUSA) wrote:
>>
>>> Oh CRAP!
>>
>> I think we simply have to get used to developers protecting their work
>> like this. I don't like it, but I love GTL, so I'm living with it and
>> haven't -- so far -- noticed any problems associated with it.
>>
>> The Starforce on LOMAC 1.1 is worse, because you only get a limited
>> number
>> of installations. Ok, it's 15 these days, with more if you ask nicely, I
>> believe. But that bothers me *far* more than the protection on GTL.
>>
>> Andrew McP
>>
>
>

"Mitch_A" > wrote in
om:

> Lomac FC (DL version) has (on their site iirc) a registry backup
> utility. Makes re-install a breeze and unlimited. In fact I used it
> recently without hiccups.
>
> Mitch

That still doesn't sound ideal to me. A big reason for re-installing
Windows periodically is to clear out all the garbage in the registry.

--
Ped Xing

All it adds are the relevant to Lomac reg entries, not all

"Ped Xing" > wrote in message
...
> "Mitch_A" > wrote in
> om:
>
>> Lomac FC (DL version) has (on their site iirc) a registry backup
>> utility. Makes re-install a breeze and unlimited. In fact I used it
>> recently without hiccups.
>>
>> Mitch
>
> That still doesn't sound ideal to me. A big reason for re-installing
> Windows periodically is to clear out all the garbage in the registry.
>
> --
> Ped Xing