Arca SimRacing 2008 arrived today.

On Mar 8, 9:51*pm, "Larry" > wrote:
>
> One thing I've found so far, if you start to spin in the corner, you are
> DONE. *After messing with the setup a bit and about 15 spins, I never was
> able to recover from a single one of them.
>
> Lots to learn yet. *Take everything with a grain of salt.

That hasn't been my experience. I've caught some big slides in ARCA.
Sometimes I've been really surprised at how far out of shape the car
has been and I still saved it. ARCA is probably better to me than any
other sim in that regard.

Now that I think about it, I've had real life drivers get into my
simulator with the ARCA sim and catch some big slides without much
seat time. Probably has a lot to do with my steering configuration
and chassis setups.

One thing - make sure you have enough steering lock available to be
able to point the wheels in the direction of the slide. If you are
using the low steering locks that seem to come with the default
setups, like 9 degrees at a SS, or 12 at shorter tracks, you won't be
able to steer enough to save it. I seem to need 15 degrees or more to
feel comfortable, and part of that comfort is the ability to correct
oversteer.

Also, non-linear steering makes catching a slide almost impossible.
Remove any non-linearity from the steering by setting the steering
axis to 50% (full linear) or as close as you can stand. Same thing
goes for speed sensitive steering - set it to zero.

Keep at it for a few days and I'll be surprised if ARCA doesn't grow
on you

Pat Dotson
http://www.ultraforcesim.com

You missed my point.

The options aren't the issue. The issue is that after all these years
there's still no in-game interface to get to them.

-Larry

"Backspace" > wrote in message
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> Larry wrote:
>
>> 1. Controller setup. It's still too finicky. You have to fiddle and
>> fiddle and fiddle and fiddle until you stumble upon something that works
>> for you.
>
> I've never had that issue with my Microsoft FFB wheel. Bit of tweaking and
> I'm off to the races.
>
>> 2. INI Hell.
>
> What you call .ini hell others call options. You would rather they encrypt
> all that stuff and give you hardly any options at all like some games do?
> Not me.

Correct!

-Larry

"Darus" > wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 12:58 am, Backspace > wrote:


2. Yes, they are options and for the most part, welcome. But I think
what Larry was getting at was those options should accessible from
<within> the game, not only via a text editor.

I think about 3 weeks ago.

-Larry

"Alan Bernardo" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Larry" > wrote in message
> ...
>> It's shipped. Mine was in the mail box today. Installing now...
>>
>> The packaging is quite bare. Just a DVD in a snap-case.
>>
>> -Larry
>>
>
> Larry,
>
> If I may ask, when did you order the game? I ordered mine last Wednesday,
> hoping it arrives soon.
>
> Alan

Darus wrote:

> 2. Yes, they are options and for the most part, welcome. But I think
> what Larry was getting at was those options should accessible from
> <within> the game, not only via a text editor.

That's nit-picking. There are far too many options in the .ini to list
within the game itself. Most people don't even need to touch the .ini
file so it is a moot point anyway.

Larry wrote:
> Correct!

So you want to see 100 options that most people don't use just to please
you? Get a grip on reality. Name one game that gives access all the .ini
options within the game.

Larry wrote:
> You missed my point.
>
> The options aren't the issue. The issue is that after all these years
> there's still no in-game interface to get to them.

There are far too many to put in the game options screen and all the
ones most people need are in the game options screen.

It's getting better. I do think the wheel lock was part of the slide issue.

I'm not getting much FF right now. If I increase the FF, all I get is a
stiffer wheel. It rumbles, but that's about it.

I need to figure out how to turn off the shaking cockpit before I puke LOL

Did some online last night. Other than getting DQ'd a couple of times while
trying to find my way to the damned track from the garage, it was ok. As
usual open servers were kinda messy, but that's typical.

I still think the sound rocks

-Larry

> wrote in message
...
On Mar 8, 9:51 pm, "Larry" > wrote:
>
> One thing I've found so far, if you start to spin in the corner, you are
> DONE. After messing with the setup a bit and about 15 spins, I never was
> able to recover from a single one of them.
>
> Lots to learn yet. Take everything with a grain of salt.

That hasn't been my experience. I've caught some big slides in ARCA.
Sometimes I've been really surprised at how far out of shape the car
has been and I still saved it. ARCA is probably better to me than any
other sim in that regard.

Now that I think about it, I've had real life drivers get into my
simulator with the ARCA sim and catch some big slides without much
seat time. Probably has a lot to do with my steering configuration
and chassis setups.

One thing - make sure you have enough steering lock available to be
able to point the wheels in the direction of the slide. If you are
using the low steering locks that seem to come with the default
setups, like 9 degrees at a SS, or 12 at shorter tracks, you won't be
able to steer enough to save it. I seem to need 15 degrees or more to
feel comfortable, and part of that comfort is the ability to correct
oversteer.

Also, non-linear steering makes catching a slide almost impossible.
Remove any non-linearity from the steering by setting the steering
axis to 50% (full linear) or as close as you can stand. Same thing
goes for speed sensitive steering - set it to zero.

Keep at it for a few days and I'll be surprised if ARCA doesn't grow
on you

Pat Dotson
http://www.ultraforcesim.com

I call Bull****. That's why programmers created TABS

-Larry

"Backspace" > wrote in message
news:JkkBj.68208$w94.22889@pd7urf2no...
> Larry wrote:
>> You missed my point.
>>
>> The options aren't the issue. The issue is that after all these years
>> there's still no in-game interface to get to them.
>
> There are far too many to put in the game options screen and all the ones
> most people need are in the game options screen.

Yep. That's why they created TABBED interfaces. Better than digging
through a text file trying to find it.

Hell, make it a separate app if you wish.

-Larry

"Backspace" > wrote in message
news:kjkBj.69584$pM4.22166@pd7urf1no...
> Larry wrote:
>> Correct!
>
> So you want to see 100 options that most people don't use just to please
> you? Get a grip on reality. Name one game that gives access all the .ini
> options within the game.