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On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:49:49 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
> On 2013-12-06, T0m $herman > wrote:
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> > On 12/5/2013 11:15 PM, Brent wrote:
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> >> On 2013-12-06, Brent > wrote:
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> >>> On 2013-12-06, T0m $herman > wrote:
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> >>>> P.S. You can go to Hell for calling me a liar.
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> >>> Where's the motor trend head to head test? That's what I said doesn't
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> >>> exist. Where is it?
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> >>> There wasn't one. Motor trend nor any major non-specialized car rag
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> >>> would put a V8 Mustang up against a stock Honda Civic in a comparison
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> >>> test.
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> >>> You're cobbling from different sources, after I filled in the year and
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> >>> displacement for you. I did the leg work to even make some
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> >>> plausability of the relative performance figures, but the road test you
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> >>> cited I doubt was ever done. This is nothing but a school boy excerise
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> >>> of the road-test digest for you that you claim was was comparison test.

On Friday, December 6, 2013 10:31:56 AM UTC-6, JR wrote:
> On Friday, December 6, 2013 8:49:49 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> > On 2013-12-06, T0m $herman > wrote:
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> > > On 12/5/2013 11:15 PM, Brent wrote:
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> > >> On 2013-12-06, Brent > wrote:
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> > >>> On 2013-12-06, T0m $herman > wrote:
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> > >>>> P.S. You can go to Hell for calling me a liar.
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> > >>>
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> > >>> Where's the motor trend head to head test? That's what I said doesn't
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> > >>> exist. Where is it?
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> > >>>
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> > >>> There wasn't one. Motor trend nor any major non-specialized car rag
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> > >>> would put a V8 Mustang up against a stock Honda Civic in a comparison
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> > >>> test.
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> > >>> You're cobbling from different sources, after I filled in the year and
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> > >>> displacement for you. I did the leg work to even make some
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> > >>> plausability of the relative performance figures, but the road test you
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> > >>> cited I doubt was ever done. This is nothing but a school boy excerise
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> > >>> of the road-test digest for you that you claim was was comparison test.
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> > >> And just to make it clear, I don't care what numbers say for 1980 or
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> > >> 1976 or anything else. Publications like Motor Trend do not do head to
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> > >> heads between Mustangs and Civics. School boys compare one road test to
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> > >> another to do things like that. At most motor trend would mention
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> > >> something from a previous road test in the article for a later one.
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> > >> This is how I know you were bull****ting/misremembering. It's fiction
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> > >> that such a comparison test would be done.
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> > > Hey asshole, I never said it was a full comparison article. But you
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> > > feel the need to lie by creating straw-men to knock down.
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> > From: "T0m $herman" >
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> > Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2013 22:30:44 -0600
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> > "Remember the Motor Trend comparison where a 1300cc Civic S beat the
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> > contemporary Mustang Cobra (with a 260 c.i. V-8) in the quarter-mile?"
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> > That clearly states the cars competed against each other in a comparison
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> > test. How else would one "beat" the other. You call me an
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> > asshole because you know you ****ed up and don't like being called on
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> > it.
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> > >> Furthermore MotorTrend can't even keep the conditions the same from one
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> > >> month to the next. They can test the same model/drivetrain cars with
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> > >> upwards of two seconds different in 0-60 times in different issues when
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> > >> I read it back in the 80s and 90s. Back when I was a schoolboy I
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> > >> learned to count the ads in Motortrend and then could predict who had
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> > >> the car of the year and who came out on top in the comparison tests
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> > >> that month without looking at the article itself. When I wanted
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> > >> accurate repeatable road test data I went to C&D. They are, as far as I
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> > >> know, the only publication to ever publish their process. It was
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> > >> probably 20-25 years ago now, but they did publish it.
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> > >> Oh and guess what Motor Trend's 1980 Car of the year was?
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> > >> http://wot.motortrend.com/1311_victo...t_winners.html
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> > >> Sadly C&D's online archive doesn't have either car for 1980.
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> > >> http://www.caranddriver.com/ford/mustang
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> > >> http://www.caranddriver.com/honda/civic
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> > > Sadly you have not run off the road into a bridge abutment and killed
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> > You're the one who made a claim that just doesn't match reality. Two
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> > fictional cars in a comparison article of some sort where one beats the
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> > other, when they are of two classes that no major auto magazine would
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> > pit against each other. It's fiction. There was no Civic S. There was no
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> > 260cid V8 Mustang Cobra ever made at the same time. Simply from the fact
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> > there was never a 260cid V8 Mustang Cobra. The 260V8 was early MY1965
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> > only in the mustang, there was no 'cobra' model that year. Civics use
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> > two and three letter submodels to the best of my knowledge. I had to
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> > tell you what real cars you might be grasping at. I had to zone you in
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> > on 1980, knowing that was the year of the sub 302cid V8. Further more,
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> > the hot mustang that year was the turbo charged four cylinder. So the
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> > V8 wasn't the top of the line mustang that year either. See he
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> > http://www.mustangspecs.com/years/80.shtml
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> > For that you call me names and wish death upon me? What exactly is your
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> > malfunction? What kind of broken person does that?
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> > You could have backed off when I humored you, when I indicated I knew
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> > more about the mustang end of the subject than you. But you couldn't do
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> > that. So you ended up getting called on it.
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> William Jeanes, a former writer, an Editor in Chief, and a Publisher at Car and Driver Magazine, he lives within fifteen miles of me. I have heard him talking a few times before on a local radio talk show. I don't know if he does copying and pasting, but I am pretty sure he is not a cretin. www..autowriter.com/news/05.2011.htm

Doggy said, autowriters, not autowriter. Thanks doggy, that's what I get for typing URLs.

On 2013-12-06, JR > wrote:
>> William Jeanes, a former writer, an Editor in Chief, and a Publisher
at Car and Driver Magazine, he lives within fifteen miles of me. I have
heard him talking a few times before on a local radio talk show. I
don't know if he does copying and pasting, but I am pretty sure he is
not a cretin. www.autowriter.com/news/05.2011.htm

> Doggy said, autowriters, not autowriter. Thanks doggy, that's what I
get for typing URLs.

Relevance?

On Friday, December 6, 2013 12:09:20 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
> On 2013-12-06, JR > wrote:
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> >> William Jeanes, a former writer, an Editor in Chief, and a Publisher
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> at Car and Driver Magazine, he lives within fifteen miles of me. I have
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> heard him talking a few times before on a local radio talk show. I
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> don't know if he does copying and pasting, but I am pretty sure he is
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> not a cretin. www.autowriter.com/news/05.2011.htm
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> > Doggy said, autowriters, not autowriter. Thanks doggy, that's what I
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> get for typing URLs.
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> Relevance?

Perhaps no relevance. Sincerely... the Cretin