Hitch inversion theory

Considering the large percentage of SUV owners on the road, I consider
the negative reply posts to be just piqued SUV owners. Feeling self
conscious?
JR

JR North wrote:

> /rant
> The main beef I have with SUVs is the people who drive them have little
> or no experience with the shifted drivers perspective due to the
> elevated eye level. I have come within a short hair's width of being
> broadsided TWICE by Lincoln Navigators, who's drivers ran a stop sign on
> an intersecting side street. This is because they are used to looking UP
> at a stop sign in a car. The elevated eye level in an SUV puts the sign
> about level with the driver. So, it doesn't register. People who are
> used to driving trucks do not make this error. The higher driver
> position causes an error in judging the distance of the car in front,
> and sometimes not even seeing it because it is below the drivers
> straight ahead line of vision. I was waiting to turn left into a 7-11
> with my brake and T/S lights on in my '70 Datsun Roadster. I glanced in
> my RVM to see a Ford Expedition barreling right at me at 45mph. I
> stomped the gas and got out of her way just in the nick of time. I could
> see her face as I glanced- see was staring straight ahead- didn't even
> see me sitting there. If I hadn't moved, I would have been killed-
> literally run-over by that monster.
> Suvs rear-end cars for the above illustrated conditions. I have 3
> neighbors with SUVs, all 3 currently have front end damage.
> As I said, look at the number of cars with rear end collision damage
> well above bumper height.
> I have had SUV's repeatedly change lanes into me(without colliding),
> because they can't see smaller cars next to them.
> Am I discourteous to SUVs? You bet. I can't trust one behind me, and
> can't see around one in front of me. If one is next to me, I'm just
> waiting for it to swerve into my lane. If one is approaching on a side
> street, I expect it to run the stop sign. This is no way to drive with
> peace-of-mind.
> The main problem is the nitwits that drive them have no experience
> driving a large, high vehicle.
> I'm just counting the days till I get killed by one.....
> \rant
> JR
>
> Ad absurdum per aspera wrote:
>
>> Three times in the past week or so, I've noticed something I don't
>> recall seeing befo someone with a high-riding pickup or SUV who had
>> two to six inches of drop hitch -- installed upside down.
>>
>> Two of them had a trailer on, and in the worst case, a flatbed behind a
>> Ford Excursion, the upside-down apparatus combined with the tall
>> vehicle to leave it sitting at maybe a twenty-degree angle. I'm
>> surprised he didn't leave his trailer taillights on the speed bumps --
>> or his cargo on the road going up a steep hill.
>>
>> Just for completeness, I went to a local store and looked at the
>> catalogue from one of the big makers of trailering tools and toys.
>> Sure enough, it contained not only instructions but photographs showing
>> what things are supposed to look like when properly rigged. Somehow
>> people are spending money on an accessory that they probably need --
>> and using it exactly wrong.
>> Fishtailing soon down an Interstate near you...
>>
>> --Joe
>>
>
>


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I figure you are a twit, that probably can not drive a sport car or a truck.
I used to race sportscars (I am in the original Herbie), as well as own a
trucking company. Over the years I have seen more idiots in small cars than
in big SUV's or trucks. At least the people in recreational trucks normally
know that you get run over by a semi, that you are going to lose. I have
had randy racer in his CRX pull infront of my Expedition, clearing it by
inches to make an offramp. I have seen sportie cars pull on to the freeway
after stopping on the onramp at 40 mph. I have also seen the soccer mom in
the SUV talking on the cell phone take her 1/2 out of the middle of the
road. As well as guys in sedans, driving 45 in the middle lane of the
freeway and wandering from side to side, while talking on his cell phone (is
he talking to the soccer mom?). There are bad drivers in all size vehicles.
I just happen to see more stupid stunts by small cars cutting off a boat
towing SUV or truck as they see the room between the truck and the next car.
And no space on the california freeway goes unfilled for more than 10
seconds.
"JR North" > wrote in message
...
> Considering the large percentage of SUV owners on the road, I consider
> the negative reply posts to be just piqued SUV owners. Feeling self
> conscious?
> JR
>
> JR North wrote:
>
> > /rant
> > The main beef I have with SUVs is the people who drive them have little
> > or no experience with the shifted drivers perspective due to the
> > elevated eye level. I have come within a short hair's width of being
> > broadsided TWICE by Lincoln Navigators, who's drivers ran a stop sign on
> > an intersecting side street. This is because they are used to looking UP
> > at a stop sign in a car. The elevated eye level in an SUV puts the sign
> > about level with the driver. So, it doesn't register. People who are
> > used to driving trucks do not make this error. The higher driver
> > position causes an error in judging the distance of the car in front,
> > and sometimes not even seeing it because it is below the drivers
> > straight ahead line of vision. I was waiting to turn left into a 7-11
> > with my brake and T/S lights on in my '70 Datsun Roadster. I glanced in
> > my RVM to see a Ford Expedition barreling right at me at 45mph. I
> > stomped the gas and got out of her way just in the nick of time. I could
> > see her face as I glanced- see was staring straight ahead- didn't even
> > see me sitting there. If I hadn't moved, I would have been killed-
> > literally run-over by that monster.
> > Suvs rear-end cars for the above illustrated conditions. I have 3
> > neighbors with SUVs, all 3 currently have front end damage.
> > As I said, look at the number of cars with rear end collision damage
> > well above bumper height.
> > I have had SUV's repeatedly change lanes into me(without colliding),
> > because they can't see smaller cars next to them.
> > Am I discourteous to SUVs? You bet. I can't trust one behind me, and
> > can't see around one in front of me. If one is next to me, I'm just
> > waiting for it to swerve into my lane. If one is approaching on a side
> > street, I expect it to run the stop sign. This is no way to drive with
> > peace-of-mind.
> > The main problem is the nitwits that drive them have no experience
> > driving a large, high vehicle.
> > I'm just counting the days till I get killed by one.....
> > \rant
> > JR
> >
> > Ad absurdum per aspera wrote:
> >
> >> Three times in the past week or so, I've noticed something I don't
> >> recall seeing befo someone with a high-riding pickup or SUV who had
> >> two to six inches of drop hitch -- installed upside down.
> >>
> >> Two of them had a trailer on, and in the worst case, a flatbed behind a
> >> Ford Excursion, the upside-down apparatus combined with the tall
> >> vehicle to leave it sitting at maybe a twenty-degree angle. I'm
> >> surprised he didn't leave his trailer taillights on the speed bumps --
> >> or his cargo on the road going up a steep hill.
> >>
> >> Just for completeness, I went to a local store and looked at the
> >> catalogue from one of the big makers of trailering tools and toys.
> >> Sure enough, it contained not only instructions but photographs showing
> >> what things are supposed to look like when properly rigged. Somehow
> >> people are spending money on an accessory that they probably need --
> >> and using it exactly wrong.
> >> Fishtailing soon down an Interstate near you...
> >>
> >> --Joe
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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> Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
> If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes
> Doubt yourself, and the real world will eat you alive
> The world doesn't revolve around you, it revolves around me
> No skeletons in the closet; just decomposing corpses
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Dependence is Vulnerability:
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> "Open the Pod Bay Doors please, Hal"
> "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.."

"Calif Bill" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> It contradicts your statement that SUV drivers can not see. Some SUV
> drivers, same as car drivers, have there head up their ass, and with no
> window in the stomach can not see. Those are the ones who drive in the
> left
> lane at 20 under the speed limit, and run into or cause accidents.
> Nothing
> to do with the size of the SUV.
>
>

No contradiction: *I* made no statement that *only* SUV operators suffered
from this form of psychologically-rooted "Tunnel Vision". <G>

Review *my* statements and you'll find that I never mentioned SUVs at all -
although the quoted text did. [Sorta like this post! <G>]

The phenomenon *does*, however, seem to be most prevalent in urban areas.

"Harry Krause" > wrote in message
...
> Calif Bill wrote:
> > I figure you are a twit, that probably can not drive a sport car or a
truck.
>
> Nice sentence structure, oh drunken one. Gude speling, two.
>
> > I have
> > had randy racer in his CRX pull infront of my Expedition, clearing it by
> > inches to make an offramp.
>
> Whew...and how did you know he was randy? Infront? Offramp? Are these
> real compound words in California?
>
>
> I have seen sportie cars pull on to the freeway
> > after stopping on the onramp at 40 mph.
>
> Sportie cars? And please explain how one is stopped if one is moving at
> 40 mph?
>
> You frequently point out the spelling or grammar errors of other
> posters, Bile, and I often remind you that you are in no position to do
so.
>
> Once again, you are in no position to "correct" the spelling, grammar,
> or sentence structure of other posters. Your understanding of language
> and ability to write is not much better than Tuuk's, and his is ****-poor.
>
> Have another beer...you must have the shakes, eh?
>
>
>
>

Go take an enema. You are so full of ****, you may explode! Did you have
to give back your illegal gains from Ullico? Why we never hear about the
lobsta boat?

JR North wrote:
> /rant
> The main beef I have with SUVs is the people who drive them have little
> or no experience with the shifted drivers perspective due to the
> elevated eye level. I have come within a short hair's width of being
> broadsided TWICE by Lincoln Navigators, who's drivers ran a stop sign on
> an intersecting side street. This is because they are used to looking UP
> at a stop sign in a car. The elevated eye level in an SUV puts the sign
> about level with the driver. So, it doesn't register. People who are
> used to driving trucks do not make this error. The higher driver
> position causes an error in judging the distance of the car in front,

<SNIP>

My current and last SUV were both rear ended by people who must have thought
they were invisible. We have never had an at-fault accident in either or my
previous two Jeep Grand Cherokees. Both my 2000 MDX and my 2004 X5 (6 days
old!) were hit by full-size Ford vans. In both cases, my vehicle was stopped.
The damage to the X5 including all of its safety gadgets was a bit over $7000.

Based on your theory, I guess people in E150 vans can't look FORWARD.

Dan