OMG! New Mazda Grills

Lanny Chambers wrote:
> In article >,
> pws > wrote:
>
>> I never saw "Cars", but I just did a google images search on Mater and
>> you are correct. :-)
>>
>> BTW, is that one worth watching?
>
> Most definitely. Not for the story--for the artwork and visual effects,
> which are breathtaking.
>

Watch out for the two fangirl characters who look like a certain small
convertible roadster. Their names are "Mia" and "Tia".

I know...I know...way too much detail - but I have kids, so a "Cars" DVD
was a Christmas present a year or so back.

CR > wrote:

> I know...I know...way too much detail - but I have kids, so a
> "Cars" DVD was a Christmas present a year or so back.

Kids are educational, w/o grandkids I'd have never heard of SpongeBob
SquarePants!




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Not for the story? I must disagree with you there. I can only assume that
it's been awhile since you've seen it Lanny. While I might agree the main
story line is at best entertaining, the 'bigger' story IMHO was the
abandoning of the highways (RT 66 was their example) as we Americans have
flocked to the interstates to save time. I thought they did a great job on
that. Sort of a miata mantra; stop and smell the roses (drive and enjoy the
back roads) kind of story. Unfortunately the miatas aren't what you'd hope
for in the movie but hey, it's a kid's movie and our cars will be seen as
chick cars for the next couple generations ;-)

But overall Pat, it's a 'gotta see' movie (for me, I even had to buy it on
dvd), and I've only gone to that extent on ...... less than 5 movies
probably. Check it out!

Chris
99BBB

"Lanny Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> pws > wrote:
>
>> I never saw "Cars", but I just did a google images search on Mater and
>> you are correct. :-)
>>
>> BTW, is that one worth watching?
>
> Most definitely. Not for the story--for the artwork and visual effects,
> which are breathtaking.
>
> --
> Lanny Chambers
> St. Louis, MO
> '94C

Pat, the sad thing on the new car is that they have supposedly done
noticeable handling improvements, making the car easier to rotate in the
corners. Not sure if these changes are bolt on, that could be added to the
earlier models or, design changes.

FYI, when I was at a dealership in Tucson, they were selling the PHRT at a
$5 or $6k discount off msrp! That was a shock to me. Things have only gotten
worse since then as far as car sales go so, in theory, deals may be even
better, not sure. I too love the PHRT.

Chris
99BBB

"pws" > wrote in message
...
> XS11E wrote:
>
>> Better to get an NA and make no payments at all, I suspect you can get a
>> very nice NA or maybe an NB for less than the downpayment on a new NC.
>
> That is my situation now.
> No payments and a car that will out-perform any stock Miata including the
> Mazdaspeeds, assuming equal drivers and conditions for both cars.
>
> It is, however, an 18 year old car, at least the frame and the parts that
> haven't been replaced are.
> This one is starting to look more and more like an 18 year old road and
> parking lot warrior every day.
>
> I cold probably have it looking very nice again for a bit more than the
> down payment on a new NC.
> It already looks better than any mint NC even with the quarter-panel dent
> and faded paint, but again, that is all opinion.
>
> I do want the PRHT, BADLY. That is what has kept me glancing at the NC, so
> I hate to see this latest "development".
> Because of the PRHT, It is possible that I may buy the NC down the road
> when the prices have really dropped.
>
> I stay away from introductory year models, so it looks like I have two
> year models to choose from before Mazda decided to go "full ugly".
> You never go full ugly, everybody knows that. :-)
>
> Pat

Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> Pat, the sad thing on the new car is that they have supposedly done
> noticeable handling improvements, making the car easier to rotate in the
> corners. Not sure if these changes are bolt on, that could be added to
> the earlier models or, design changes.


I'm sure that the proof is in the numbers.

Having test-driven a couple, they do not feel like they handle better,
certainly not as nimble an early, (therefore lightweight), NA Miata with
an upgraded suspension and super-lightweight wheels.

The changes are probably not bolt-on, as they made major changes this
time, including a 5-lug wheel for extra weight gain along with the
heavy-ass wheels.

Leon called the NC "his SUV Miata".
That was my impression, too big and cushy for anything that is replacing
the previous Mazda roadsters.
Not a bad car to drive, but not what I am looking for in a 2-seat
convertible.
Throw looks into the equation, and it is not even close. The low-mileage
NA's are looking better and better all the time.

> FYI, when I was at a dealership in Tucson, they were selling the PHRT at
> a $5 or $6k discount off msrp! That was a shock to me. Things have only
> gotten worse since then as far as car sales go so, in theory, deals may
> be even better, not sure. I too love the PHRT.
>
> Chris
> 99BBB

As much as I love the PRHT, I would still take a NC ragtop from 2007 or
2008 over this smiley-face 2009 nightmare edition with a PRHT.

Having an early NA, (one of the light ones, not the way too heavy 1996
model like I owned), a NB and a pre-hideous 2007 or 2008 NC with the
PRHT could be cool.

Pat

XS11E wrote:
> CR > wrote:
>
>> I know...I know...way too much detail - but I have kids, so a
>> "Cars" DVD was a Christmas present a year or so back.
>
> Kids are educational, w/o grandkids I'd have never heard of SpongeBob
> SquarePants!

My favorite episode was when the Bully was going to attack SpongeBob, so
he changed his name to "BobSponge PantsSquare".

That was a classic. :-)

Pat

pws > wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> CR > wrote:
>>
>>> I know...I know...way too much detail - but I have kids, so a
>>> "Cars" DVD was a Christmas present a year or so back.
>>
>> Kids are educational, w/o grandkids I'd have never heard of
>> SpongeBob SquarePants!
>
> My favorite episode was when the Bully was going to attack
> SpongeBob, so he changed his name to "BobSponge PantsSquare".
>
> That was a classic. :-)

I missed that one, the problem with all the grandkids becoming adults
(there's still one who is only 17 but her birthday is comming!) is that
I no longer have an excuse to watch cartoons... <sigh>


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In article >,
pws > wrote:
>
> As much as I love the PRHT, I would still take a NC ragtop from 2007 or
> 2008 over this smiley-face 2009 nightmare edition with a PRHT.
>

Heh, maybe they need to start a "Grills Gone Wild" campaign like Dodge
did with their Ram trucks a few years back.

The Mazda '3' grill makes the Miata's look rather conservative.

--Geary

Yes, the new Mazda 3 grill (whole front fascia) is HIDEOUS! Anything looks
goo next to that!

Chris
99BBB

"Geary Morton" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> pws > wrote:
>>
>> As much as I love the PRHT, I would still take a NC ragtop from 2007 or
>> 2008 over this smiley-face 2009 nightmare edition with a PRHT.
>>
>
> Heh, maybe they need to start a "Grills Gone Wild" campaign like Dodge
> did with their Ram trucks a few years back.
>
> The Mazda '3' grill makes the Miata's look rather conservative.
>
> --Geary

Geary Morton wrote:
> Are they just plain hideous, or is that just my imagination?

I like it! But I'm not gonna buy one... I'd go for a NB FL, redo
tires-wheels-brakes-suspension. Do a bit of forced induction and presto
I'd have a cheep-fast car.

NA is just too old, hard to find, etc.