2004 CROSSFIRE

HI gang I have hung around a long TIME and have enjoyed the banter and
info.
But now I must ask for some help with a car problem. A 2004 chrysler
crossfire of my nephew, he CAN no longer can afford this car and its
repairs so it has fallen to me to fix it for him.Complete brake over
haul and front wheel bearings and I suspect rear axle bearings.
Mitchell E manual says to do it one way and chillton hard cover
manual say a different way. based on the inspection of the car none
of the ways make a lot of sense. I have the tools and I thought the
know how to do all the repairs as I had been a brake and front end
mechanic who left the field for health issue all most 20 years ago.
Any one have any input to the proper way to do this , that is to
replace the rear axle bearings?

thank you
Ram lover

ram lover > writes:

> HI gang I have hung around a long TIME and have enjoyed the banter and
> info.
> But now I must ask for some help with a car problem. A 2004 chrysler
> crossfire of my nephew, he CAN no longer can afford this car and its
> repairs so it has fallen to me to fix it for him.Complete brake over
> haul and front wheel bearings and I suspect rear axle bearings.
> Mitchell E manual says to do it one way and chillton hard cover
> manual say a different way. based on the inspection of the car none
> of the ways make a lot of sense. I have the tools and I thought the
> know how to do all the repairs as I had been a brake and front end
> mechanic who left the field for health issue all most 20 years ago.
> Any one have any input to the proper way to do this , that is to
> replace the rear axle bearings?

Rather than debating the Mitchell and Chilton manuals, what does the
factory manual say?
--
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be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours;
and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)

Hi!

My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.

You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.

William

William R. Walsh wrote:
> Hi!
>
> My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
> two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
> something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.
>
> You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.
>
> William

I'll add my less than certain possibility: Pay about $27 for an alldata
1 year subscription (www.alldatadiy.com). For a particular procedure,
it will either pay off completely or will be a dry hole - nothing in
between. Here's why: The procedures they do include with the
subscription are right out of the factory manual for the exact year and
vehicle, so the quality of the info. will exceed that of any aftermarket
manual. The catch is that not all procedures are included.

A bonus that you would get, whether or not the procedure you need is in
the info., is complete schematics (again, right out of the FSM) *and*
all TSB's applicable to the vehicle. Might be worth the gamble on the
bearing procedures just to get those two things.

--
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:21:23 -0400, Bill Putney >
wrote:

>William R. Walsh wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
>> two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
>> something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.
>>
>> You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.
>>
>> William
>
>I'll add my less than certain possibility: Pay about $27 for an alldata
>1 year subscription (www.alldatadiy.com). For a particular procedure,
>it will either pay off completely or will be a dry hole - nothing in
>between. Here's why: The procedures they do include with the
>subscription are right out of the factory manual for the exact year and
>vehicle, so the quality of the info. will exceed that of any aftermarket
>manual. The catch is that not all procedures are included.
>
>A bonus that you would get, whether or not the procedure you need is in
>the info., is complete schematics (again, right out of the FSM) *and*
>all TSB's applicable to the vehicle. Might be worth the gamble on the
>bearing procedures just to get those two things.

HI and thanks very good info there but my problem now seams to be I
have and odd duck . alldatadiy match's Mitchell but not my car . go
figure

I've noticed some parts prices which aren't real accurate in there, but the
time guides are close.....if the user has the relevant skill levels


"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> William R. Walsh wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
>> two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
>> something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.
>>
>> You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.
>>
>> William
>
> I'll add my less than certain possibility: Pay about $27 for an alldata 1
> year subscription (www.alldatadiy.com). For a particular procedure, it
> will either pay off completely or will be a dry hole - nothing in between.
> Here's why: The procedures they do include with the subscription are right
> out of the factory manual for the exact year and vehicle, so the quality
> of the info. will exceed that of any aftermarket manual. The catch is
> that not all procedures are included.
>
> A bonus that you would get, whether or not the procedure you need is in
> the info., is complete schematics (again, right out of the FSM) *and* all
> TSB's applicable to the vehicle. Might be worth the gamble on the bearing
> procedures just to get those two things.
>
> --
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')

ram lover wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:21:23 -0400, Bill Putney >
> wrote:
>
>> William R. Walsh wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
>>> two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
>>> something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.
>>>
>>> You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.
>>>
>>> William
>> I'll add my less than certain possibility: Pay about $27 for an alldata
>> 1 year subscription (www.alldatadiy.com). For a particular procedure,
>> it will either pay off completely or will be a dry hole - nothing in
>> between. Here's why: The procedures they do include with the
>> subscription are right out of the factory manual for the exact year and
>> vehicle, so the quality of the info. will exceed that of any aftermarket
>> manual. The catch is that not all procedures are included.
>>
>> A bonus that you would get, whether or not the procedure you need is in
>> the info., is complete schematics (again, right out of the FSM) *and*
>> all TSB's applicable to the vehicle. Might be worth the gamble on the
>> bearing procedures just to get those two things.
>
> HI and thanks very good info there but my problem now seams to be I
> have and odd duck . alldatadiy match's Mitchell but not my car . go
> figure

That is a little strange. I guess Chrysler, or Daimler's in this case,
info. is inaccurate.

--
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

As a DIY'er, I don't look at the time estimates, and I get exact prices,
either aftermarket or discounted OEM are available on line, either ahead
of time or as I order them. But I could see where a business would like
to have that info. for quoting a job.

--
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')


rob wrote:
> I've noticed some parts prices which aren't real accurate in there, but the
> time guides are close.....if the user has the relevant skill levels
>
>
> "Bill Putney" > wrote in message
> ...
>> William R. Walsh wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
>>> two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
>>> something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.
>>>
>>> You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.
>>>
>>> William
>> I'll add my less than certain possibility: Pay about $27 for an alldata 1
>> year subscription (www.alldatadiy.com). For a particular procedure, it
>> will either pay off completely or will be a dry hole - nothing in between.
>> Here's why: The procedures they do include with the subscription are right
>> out of the factory manual for the exact year and vehicle, so the quality
>> of the info. will exceed that of any aftermarket manual. The catch is
>> that not all procedures are included.
>>
>> A bonus that you would get, whether or not the procedure you need is in
>> the info., is complete schematics (again, right out of the FSM) *and* all
>> TSB's applicable to the vehicle. Might be worth the gamble on the bearing
>> procedures just to get those two things.
>>
>> --
>> Bill Putney
>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
>> with the letter 'x')
>
>

yeah from time to time i have to advise some shops that warranty wont pay
labor twice for taking out something that you had to do anyway to access
another part.......like charging labor for oil pan reseal labor when they
took the pan off anyway to get at a bad oil pump..etc


"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> As a DIY'er, I don't look at the time estimates, and I get exact prices,
> either aftermarket or discounted OEM are available on line, either ahead
> of time or as I order them. But I could see where a business would like
> to have that info. for quoting a job.
>
> --
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')
>
>
> rob wrote:
>> I've noticed some parts prices which aren't real accurate in there, but
>> the time guides are close.....if the user has the relevant skill levels
>>
>>
>> "Bill Putney" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> William R. Walsh wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>
>>>> My bet is that the Mitchell manual is the more correct of the
>>>> two...but if you really want to know how it's done, hit eBay or
>>>> something and find the Chrysler factory service manual.
>>>>
>>>> You'll find out everything you wanted to know and possibly then some.
>>>>
>>>> William
>>> I'll add my less than certain possibility: Pay about $27 for an alldata
>>> 1 year subscription (www.alldatadiy.com). For a particular procedure,
>>> it will either pay off completely or will be a dry hole - nothing in
>>> between. Here's why: The procedures they do include with the
>>> subscription are right out of the factory manual for the exact year and
>>> vehicle, so the quality of the info. will exceed that of any aftermarket
>>> manual. The catch is that not all procedures are included.
>>>
>>> A bonus that you would get, whether or not the procedure you need is in
>>> the info., is complete schematics (again, right out of the FSM) *and*
>>> all TSB's applicable to the vehicle. Might be worth the gamble on the
>>> bearing procedures just to get those two things.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bill Putney
>>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>>> address with the letter 'x')
>>

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:33:06 -0700, ram lover > wrote:

>HI gang I have hung around a long TIME and have enjoyed the banter and
>info.
>But now I must ask for some help with a car problem. A 2004 chrysler
>crossfire of my nephew, he CAN no longer can afford this car and its
>repairs so it has fallen to me to fix it for him.Complete brake over
>haul and front wheel bearings and I suspect rear axle bearings.
> Mitchell E manual says to do it one way and chillton hard cover
>manual say a different way. based on the inspection of the car none
>of the ways make a lot of sense. I have the tools and I thought the
>know how to do all the repairs as I had been a brake and front end
>mechanic who left the field for health issue all most 20 years ago.
>Any one have any input to the proper way to do this , that is to
>replace the rear axle bearings?
>
>thank you
>Ram lover


I have fond out that this car was in the first shipment to the states
in 2003 and may have a different configuration only a dealer may have
the info on this car. Does this sound possible to any of you?
I have seen the factory manual and this car does not match it as far
as the axle configuration.

Keith A.K, Ram lover