145 2.0 Cloverleaf.

Hi all,

I used to have a 156 and unfortunately had to sell it due to lack of cash
:-( However I am now in a slightly better position and am looking at the
possibilities of returning Alfa. Being on a limited budget I was wondering
what the general opinion of the 145 Cloverleaf is with regard to performance
but mainly on how reliable and well built it is. I guess I'll be looking at
a 98 ish car and was wondering if I was potentially looking at a bit of a
cash cow.

Any thoughts?

Thanks
HC.

"Hull Chap" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> I used to have a 156 and unfortunately had to sell it due to lack of cash
> :-( However I am now in a slightly better position and am looking at the
> possibilities of returning Alfa. Being on a limited budget I was wondering
> what the general opinion of the 145 Cloverleaf is with regard to
> performance but mainly on how reliable and well built it is. I guess I'll
> be looking at a 98 ish car and was wondering if I was potentially looking
> at a bit of a cash cow.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> HC.
>

Hello HC.

Have a look (and register if you like) on www.alfa145.com/forum. A member
has just said they are selling their black, T-registered, 1999, 145 QV.

Post all the questions you like, we WILL answer them!

"bobdabilda" > wrote in message
...
>
> Have a look (and register if you like) on www.alfa145.com/forum. A member
> has just said they are selling their black, T-registered, 1999, 145 QV.
>
> Post all the questions you like, we WILL answer them!

Thanks for the info. I'll have a look around. Is the 145 a car to put a
smile back on my face?

Regards,
HC.

Hull Chap > wrote:

> "bobdabilda" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Have a look (and register if you like) on www.alfa145.com/forum. A member
> > has just said they are selling their black, T-registered, 1999, 145 QV.
> >
> > Post all the questions you like, we WILL answer them!
>
> Thanks for the info. I'll have a look around. Is the 145 a car to put a
> smile back on my face?

IMHO, probably not. People will hate me for saying this, but it's just a
Fiat with stick-on Alfa bits. Not a patch on the 33 it replaced.

I'd be looking at a 'widebody' 155 V6 or 8v T-Spark if I were you.

<whispers>
Not a lot of people know this, but the 'widebody' 155s are more or less
a 156 without the flashy styling.

--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

In ,
SteveH > decided to enlighten our sheltered souls
with a rant as follows
> Hull Chap > wrote:
>
>> "bobdabilda" > wrote in
>> message ...
>>>
>>> Have a look (and register if you like) on www.alfa145.com/forum. A
>>> member has just said they are selling their black, T-registered,
>>> 1999, 145 QV.
>>>
>>> Post all the questions you like, we WILL answer them!
>>
>> Thanks for the info. I'll have a look around. Is the 145 a car to
>> put a smile back on my face?
>
> IMHO, probably not. People will hate me for saying this, but it's
> just a Fiat with stick-on Alfa bits. Not a patch on the 33 it
> replaced.

No, Steve, you've failed to understand reality again. Alfa 33s were
something that should really never have happened. They're a total mess,
they're horrible to drive, badly built, look awful, and are nowhere near as
much fun as a 145 Cloverleaf. The Cloverleaf is fun, at least.

>
> I'd be looking at a 'widebody' 155 V6 or 8v T-Spark if I were you.
>
> <whispers>
> Not a lot of people know this, but the 'widebody' 155s are more or
> less
> a 156 without the flashy styling.

Aye, but avoid a narrow body 155 like the plague. They're cheap for a
reason.


--
Pete M - "Hater of FWD Vauxhalls"

Mercedes 260E
Ford Capri (ressurection starts soon)
COSOC #5
Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain

Pete M > wrote:

> >> Thanks for the info. I'll have a look around. Is the 145 a car to
> >> put a smile back on my face?
> >
> > IMHO, probably not. People will hate me for saying this, but it's
> > just a Fiat with stick-on Alfa bits. Not a patch on the 33 it
> > replaced.
>
> No, Steve, you've failed to understand reality again. Alfa 33s were
> something that should really never have happened. They're a total mess,
> they're horrible to drive, badly built, look awful, and are nowhere near as
> much fun as a 145 Cloverleaf. The Cloverleaf is fun, at least.

I just can't agree on this.

Having had 2 33s, I'd agree that they're pretty shoddily built, but they
are massive fun to drive. Especially the 16v, which is a real screamer.

> > I'd be looking at a 'widebody' 155 V6 or 8v T-Spark if I were you.
> >
> > <whispers>
> > Not a lot of people know this, but the 'widebody' 155s are more or
> > less
> > a 156 without the flashy styling.
>
> Aye, but avoid a narrow body 155 like the plague. They're cheap for a
> reason.

Again, I'll disagree, my narrowbody is fine, althought I beleive there
were 2 revisions of the narrowbody, with mine being the later one.
--
Steve H 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
http://www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - MZ ETZ300
VW Golf GL Cabrio - Alfa 75 TS - Alfa 155 TS Lusso - COSOC KOTL
BoTAFOT #87 - BoTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

In ,
SteveH > decided to enlighten our sheltered souls
with a rant as follows
> Pete M > wrote:
>
>>>> Thanks for the info. I'll have a look around. Is the 145 a car to
>>>> put a smile back on my face?
>>>
>>> IMHO, probably not. People will hate me for saying this, but it's
>>> just a Fiat with stick-on Alfa bits. Not a patch on the 33 it
>>> replaced.
>>
>> No, Steve, you've failed to understand reality again. Alfa 33s were
>> something that should really never have happened. They're a total
>> mess, they're horrible to drive, badly built, look awful, and are
>> nowhere near as much fun as a 145 Cloverleaf. The Cloverleaf is fun,
>> at least.
>
> I just can't agree on this.
>
> Having had 2 33s, I'd agree that they're pretty shoddily built, but
> they are massive fun to drive. Especially the 16v, which is a real
> screamer.
>
>>> I'd be looking at a 'widebody' 155 V6 or 8v T-Spark if I were you.
>>>
>>> <whispers>
>>> Not a lot of people know this, but the 'widebody' 155s are more or
>>> less
>>> a 156 without the flashy styling.
>>
>> Aye, but avoid a narrow body 155 like the plague. They're cheap for a
>> reason.
>
> Again, I'll disagree, my narrowbody is fine, althought I beleive there
> were 2 revisions of the narrowbody, with mine being the later one.

the earlier ones, however, were a bloody disgrace to the Alfa name. I admit
to not having driven a very early 155, but having had a 155 Q4 as a company
car - which I loved almost as much as I enjoyed the 164 Q4, and having
driven a couple of later narrow body ones I have to say that the wider body
155s were *much* better cars. To the extent I'd very happily have a widebody
2.0. The V6 ones were unfortunately a bit "bobbly" at the front.


--
Pete M - "Hater of FWD Vauxhalls"

Mercedes 260E
Ford Capri (ressurection starts soon)
COSOC #5
Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain

I have a 1999 145 1.6 TS and love it to bits

here's a useful site for things to look out for

http://www.doix.demon.nl/alfa_buying.html


Cheers, Mark



"Hull Chap" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
>
> I used to have a 156 and unfortunately had to sell it due to lack of cash
> :-( However I am now in a slightly better position and am looking at the
> possibilities of returning Alfa. Being on a limited budget I was wondering
> what the general opinion of the 145 Cloverleaf is with regard to
> performance but mainly on how reliable and well built it is. I guess I'll
> be looking at a 98 ish car and was wondering if I was potentially looking
> at a bit of a cash cow.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> HC.
>