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Old December 5th 05, 01:33 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
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Hi,

I bought a used '01 Explorer Sport. It didn't have an Owner's Guide,
so I downloaded one from Ford. When I did my 1st oil change, the
specified oil filter didn't fit! I went back to the Ford website and
created a profile of my vehicle (submitted VIN). I then downloaded
another Owner's Guide. This time the oil filter part number was
correct.

Well, I thought all was well until an hour ago when I read the section
on 4wd. It said I had auto 4wd. I don't. The knob I have has
"2wd-4wd high-4wd low". The manual says it should have "auto-4wd
high-4wd low". But, get this--the other manual with the wrong oil
filter number has the correct 4wd stuff.

Possibly related, a couple of weeks ago, I went in to get another key
made (PATS key). When they (Ford service) looked it up, they said
their documentation says I should be using a different key. They
programmed the one their doc said to use & it didn't work. Then they
programmed one similar to the one I had and it worked. They looked at
the sticker in the driver's side door and told me I had a '00 Ford
(manufacture date 5/00)! I was upset (thought someone had cheated me),
so I looked at the VIN--it said it was an '01.

Anyone know what the heck is going on? It appears Ford can't give me a
proper Owner's Guide??? All I want is proper documentation. Could it
perhaps not be a "Sport" model? I doubt that's it though.

I'll probably go to Ford service to see if they can help me, but I'm
not too optimistic.

Thanks for your help!



Jim

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Old December 5th 05, 02:20 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
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Default Owner's Guide doesn't match vehicle!!!

Jim wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I bought a used '01 Explorer Sport. It didn't have an Owner's Guide,
> so I downloaded one from Ford. When I did my 1st oil change, the
> specified oil filter didn't fit! I went back to the Ford website and
> created a profile of my vehicle (submitted VIN). I then downloaded
> another Owner's Guide. This time the oil filter part number was
> correct.
>
> Well, I thought all was well until an hour ago when I read the section
> on 4wd. It said I had auto 4wd. I don't. The knob I have has
> "2wd-4wd high-4wd low". The manual says it should have "auto-4wd
> high-4wd low". But, get this--the other manual with the wrong oil
> filter number has the correct 4wd stuff.
>
> Possibly related, a couple of weeks ago, I went in to get another key
> made (PATS key). When they (Ford service) looked it up, they said
> their documentation says I should be using a different key. They
> programmed the one their doc said to use & it didn't work. Then they
> programmed one similar to the one I had and it worked. They looked at
> the sticker in the driver's side door and told me I had a '00 Ford
> (manufacture date 5/00)! I was upset (thought someone had cheated me),
> so I looked at the VIN--it said it was an '01.
>
> Anyone know what the heck is going on? It appears Ford can't give me a
> proper Owner's Guide??? All I want is proper documentation. Could it
> perhaps not be a "Sport" model? I doubt that's it though.
>
> I'll probably go to Ford service to see if they can help me, but I'm
> not too optimistic.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
>
>
> Jim
>


Strange... Just a thought... Have you tried a carfax report? Not saying
it would turn up anything, but then again??

http://www.carfax.com

Good luck,

Steven
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Old December 5th 05, 03:08 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
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Default Owner's Guide doesn't match vehicle!!!

2001 was a confusing year because that is when the Explorer and
Explorer Sport were split into distinctly different platforms and the
Explorer Sport Trac was introduced. The Explorer Sport was restyled for
2001. The 4 Dr Explorer was a carry over from 2000 that was replaced in
February of 2001 by the all new 2002 Explorer Are you sure you got the
Explorer SPORT Manual the first time? I just down loaded one from
www.fleet.ford.com and it appears to be the correct manual. Prior to
2001 all Explorer Manuals were combined into one (Explorer, Explorer
Sport). It is possible that there is some confusion because of the way
the split was handled in 2001. Early 2001 Sport Models probably
continued to share the owner's guide with 2001 4 Door Explorers. For
later 2001 models there is a separate Explorer Sport Owner's Guide.
Ford changed the PATs system on Explorer Sports during the 2001 Model
year, so it is possible that the dealer is just confused about the
keys. Early 2001 models would have the same PATS keys as 2000
models.Later 2001's would have the newer style keys. Your Explorer
Sport is obviously a very early build 2001 Model, and probably used the
same keys as 2000 year models. The official model year has nothing to
do with when the truck was assembled. I
am sure you realize that dealers have been selling 2006 models for many
months even though we are still in 2005. The official model year has
more to do with emission and safety requirements applied to the vehicle
that anything else these days. As for the Oil Filter. Prior to 2001,
Ford recommended FL-1A oil filters for the 4.0L engines (both OHV and
SOHC). For 2001 and beyond, they changed the recommendation to FL-820S.
Both filters have the same threads and gasket diameter and can be
interchanged, assuming there is enough room. The FL-820S has a better
anti-drain back valve and is
shorter. I'd use the FL-820S since that is what is recommended for a
2001 4.0L SOHC engine.

Regards,

Ed White

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Old December 6th 05, 12:43 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
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Steven,

I got a carfax before I bought it...

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Old December 6th 05, 12:57 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
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Ed,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the history--it helps tie things up
for me.

As for the downloaded manuals, the first one I got was a 6th edition
(the latest). The one I got when I entered my VIN had no "edition", so
I assume this was the 1st. That seems to go with what you said. So,
the stuff about the AWD mentioned in the older manual that has the
correct oil filter must be a carryover from 2000?

I know the model year sometimes doesn't correspond to the build year.
They've been doing that for years. But, I've never had issues using
the model year for parts. I hope I don't run into problems about this.
I've always used the model year for ordering parts. Should I be using
build year? Somehow I bet I get a different answer from everyone I
ask.

As for the oil filters, I could've sworn the FL-820S didn't fit. When
I do my next oil change, I'll try it again (I still have it).

Thanks again!


Jim

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Old December 6th 05, 05:05 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer
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Jim,

I just checked and I am wrong about the filters. The FL-820S has
different threads (M22x1.5-6H) than the FL-1A (3/4-16 UNF-2B). I looked
in the Purolator Catalog and they list the FL-820S equivalent for
Explorer Sports with the 22mm threads and the FL-1A Equivalent for 3/4
inch thread. Probably another mid-year change. Sorry about the
missinformation. The "short" FL-1A is a FL-300.

Whenever you order parts, just make sure you tell them the build date.
It is not uncommon for things to change during a model year based on
build dates.

The PATS system changed for Explorer Sports built after July 24, 2000
(Before July 24, 200 the Sports used PATS System Type B, after July 24,
200, Sports used PATS System Type E).

I am not sure when they changed the oil filter adapter to the 22mm
thread. It might also be that the oil filter adapter is related to
whether or not your vehicle has an oil cooler. The Fram catalog lists
different oil filters for the 4.0L SOHC depending on whether it has an
oil cooler (FL820S equivalent) or not (FL1A equivalent).

Ed

 




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