Stupid Americans! -- Stupid... Stupid... STUPID!!! ___________mixqec

I think that Geoff can speak for himself...



Bob Shuman wrote:
> Linda,
>
> What you "heard" Geoff say in his post reveals more about you than Geoff. I
> say this since I personally took his posting as simply calling on you to
> back up your statement.

Please RE-READ my posting....
>
> By the way, I personally don't care one way or the other if John Wayne was
> gay or not. The point of contention here is that you positioned a statement
> as a fact, but have not been able to prove it to be true.

I say again, PLEASE RE-READ my posting....

As such, until
> you can prove otherwise it is simply one person's opinion. I don't believe
> that Geoff deserved your pointed response
what is so pointed about what i said?????



and suggest that you learn to
> refrain from responding to every email with which you don't agree. (Your
> "argument gene" you cited previously is going to get you into a whole lot of
> trouble -
AGAIN, what kind of trouble are you talking about????


>

>
> That said, I think it would be best to move this discussion to a suitable
> forum and leave the auto newsgroups for their intended purpose.
Please check the postings on the topics, check how many of your auto
friends are responding... then tell THEM that this practice is very much
frowned upon and in direct conflict with most newsgroup charters...i
don't see you posting to the MEN who are discussing this, to quit. I
don't see you telling the guy who is paranoid about the FBI to stay off
this NG...

:-(






Since you
> are a self-proclaimed Internet novice, consider yourself advised against
> cross-posting to so many newsgroups at the same time. This practice is very
> much frowned upon and in direct conflict with most newsgroup charters.
>
> "linda" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.chrysler, rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer,
>>>> rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang, rec.autos.makers.honda
>>>>Subject: Stupid Americans! -- Stupid... Stupid... STUPID!!!
>>>
>>>How about YOU supply a cite for the John Wayne assertion? NOWHERE
>>>can I find ANY reference to his being other than heterosexual, and
>>>none of the readily-available Internet biographies, official or
>
> non-official,
>
>>>make any such claim.
>>>
>>>What I can find is that he was married three times, and had seven
>>>children, was a strident anti-communist, an ardent supporter of the U.S.
>>>forces in Vietnam, and in general lived the larger-than-life image
>>>frequently associated with him. None of these things preclude him from
>>>possibly being bisexual, I suppose. But if you can't produce
>>>incontrovertable evidence, I will be forced to conclude this is either
>>>a.) a smear job, b.) a delusion, or c.) a misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>John Wayne Gacy is widely reputed to be gay, perhaps that is the source
>
> of your
>
>>>confusion.
>>>
>>>--Geoff
>>
>>Geoff, i can here you saying this: "if anyone says The Duke was gay,
>>I'll beat the snot out of you. Same with Errol Flynn. They were Men's
>>Men, and yer a Commie Pinko if you think otherwise. "
>>
>>however, i do recall reading a book about the biography of hollywood
>>that the duke had bisexual relations with some of the "men's men". and
>>if i could get in to my attic to find it, i would mail it to you..
>>however, you are right, i cannot find anything on the internet that
>>supports my claim.. but i just thought it was so cute that of all the
>>people listed as gay, you came to The Duke's defense... how sweet..
>>protect our image of the man who people regard as "our national
>>treasure
>>linda
>
>
>

I think that Geoff can speak for himself...



Bob Shuman wrote:
> Linda,
>
> What you "heard" Geoff say in his post reveals more about you than Geoff. I
> say this since I personally took his posting as simply calling on you to
> back up your statement.

Please RE-READ my posting....
>
> By the way, I personally don't care one way or the other if John Wayne was
> gay or not. The point of contention here is that you positioned a statement
> as a fact, but have not been able to prove it to be true.

I say again, PLEASE RE-READ my posting....

As such, until
> you can prove otherwise it is simply one person's opinion. I don't believe
> that Geoff deserved your pointed response
what is so pointed about what i said?????



and suggest that you learn to
> refrain from responding to every email with which you don't agree. (Your
> "argument gene" you cited previously is going to get you into a whole lot of
> trouble -
AGAIN, what kind of trouble are you talking about????


>

>
> That said, I think it would be best to move this discussion to a suitable
> forum and leave the auto newsgroups for their intended purpose.
Please check the postings on the topics, check how many of your auto
friends are responding... then tell THEM that this practice is very much
frowned upon and in direct conflict with most newsgroup charters...i
don't see you posting to the MEN who are discussing this, to quit. I
don't see you telling the guy who is paranoid about the FBI to stay off
this NG...

:-(






Since you
> are a self-proclaimed Internet novice, consider yourself advised against
> cross-posting to so many newsgroups at the same time. This practice is very
> much frowned upon and in direct conflict with most newsgroup charters.
>
> "linda" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>>>Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.chrysler, rec.autos.makers.ford.explorer,
>>>> rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang, rec.autos.makers.honda
>>>>Subject: Stupid Americans! -- Stupid... Stupid... STUPID!!!
>>>
>>>How about YOU supply a cite for the John Wayne assertion? NOWHERE
>>>can I find ANY reference to his being other than heterosexual, and
>>>none of the readily-available Internet biographies, official or
>
> non-official,
>
>>>make any such claim.
>>>
>>>What I can find is that he was married three times, and had seven
>>>children, was a strident anti-communist, an ardent supporter of the U.S.
>>>forces in Vietnam, and in general lived the larger-than-life image
>>>frequently associated with him. None of these things preclude him from
>>>possibly being bisexual, I suppose. But if you can't produce
>>>incontrovertable evidence, I will be forced to conclude this is either
>>>a.) a smear job, b.) a delusion, or c.) a misunderstanding.
>>>
>>>John Wayne Gacy is widely reputed to be gay, perhaps that is the source
>
> of your
>
>>>confusion.
>>>
>>>--Geoff
>>
>>Geoff, i can here you saying this: "if anyone says The Duke was gay,
>>I'll beat the snot out of you. Same with Errol Flynn. They were Men's
>>Men, and yer a Commie Pinko if you think otherwise. "
>>
>>however, i do recall reading a book about the biography of hollywood
>>that the duke had bisexual relations with some of the "men's men". and
>>if i could get in to my attic to find it, i would mail it to you..
>>however, you are right, i cannot find anything on the internet that
>>supports my claim.. but i just thought it was so cute that of all the
>>people listed as gay, you came to The Duke's defense... how sweet..
>>protect our image of the man who people regard as "our national
>>treasure
>>linda
>
>
>

Bill Putney wrote:
> linda wrote:
>
>> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>>
>>> Have we established what car you drive, Linda?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>> DAS
>>
>>
>> not a chrysler......;-)
>>
>
> You left in a Huff about a week ago (not sure of the year, though). 8^)

No, darlin'.. i did not leave in a Huff, I left in a FURY.... :-) 19**

but then i knew you could not live without me and i had to come
back...... :-)

linda

>
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Bill Putney wrote:
> linda wrote:
>
>> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>>
>>> Have we established what car you drive, Linda?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>> DAS
>>
>>
>> not a chrysler......;-)
>>
>
> You left in a Huff about a week ago (not sure of the year, though). 8^)

No, darlin'.. i did not leave in a Huff, I left in a FURY.... :-) 19**

but then i knew you could not live without me and i had to come
back...... :-)

linda

>
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linda wrote:
> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>
>> Have we established what car you drive, Linda?
>>
>> ;-)
>> DAS
>
> not a chrysler......;-)
>

You left in a Huff about a week ago (not sure of the year, though). 8^)

Bill Putney
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linda wrote:
> Dori A Schmetterling wrote:
>
>> Have we established what car you drive, Linda?
>>
>> ;-)
>> DAS
>
> not a chrysler......;-)
>

You left in a Huff about a week ago (not sure of the year, though). 8^)

Bill Putney
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linda wrote:
> ...but also
> put me on the record as saying NOT ALL GAYS are pedophiles, not all
> heteros are pedophiles, and in our discussions concerning gays,
> pedophilia does NOT BELONG!!!!!

Ok - but here's a fair question. If we were to find a long list of
pedophiles throughut history who were very accomplished people, made
contributions to society, etc., etc., then would that add
credibility/acceptability to pedophilia? And before you object to the
question, that's not saying that gay = pedophile. It just brings into
question the purpose/usefulness/value of the list you presented.

Bill Putney
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linda wrote:
> ...but also
> put me on the record as saying NOT ALL GAYS are pedophiles, not all
> heteros are pedophiles, and in our discussions concerning gays,
> pedophilia does NOT BELONG!!!!!

Ok - but here's a fair question. If we were to find a long list of
pedophiles throughut history who were very accomplished people, made
contributions to society, etc., etc., then would that add
credibility/acceptability to pedophilia? And before you object to the
question, that's not saying that gay = pedophile. It just brings into
question the purpose/usefulness/value of the list you presented.

Bill Putney
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Bill Putney wrote:
> linda wrote:
> > ...but also
>
>> put me on the record as saying NOT ALL GAYS are pedophiles, not all
>> heteros are pedophiles, and in our discussions concerning gays,
>> pedophilia does NOT BELONG!!!!!
>
>
> Ok - but here's a fair question. If we were to find a long list of
> pedophiles throughut history who were very accomplished people, made
> contributions to society, etc., etc., then would that add
> credibility/acceptability to pedophilia? And before you object to the
> question, that's not saying that gay = pedophile. It just brings into
> question the purpose/usefulness/value of the list you presented.

Bill, you do realize by now that you have entered into the domain of
"mud wrestling with a pig", right? :-)


Matt

Bill Putney wrote:
> linda wrote:
> > ...but also
>
>> put me on the record as saying NOT ALL GAYS are pedophiles, not all
>> heteros are pedophiles, and in our discussions concerning gays,
>> pedophilia does NOT BELONG!!!!!
>
>
> Ok - but here's a fair question. If we were to find a long list of
> pedophiles throughut history who were very accomplished people, made
> contributions to society, etc., etc., then would that add
> credibility/acceptability to pedophilia? And before you object to the
> question, that's not saying that gay = pedophile. It just brings into
> question the purpose/usefulness/value of the list you presented.

Bill, you do realize by now that you have entered into the domain of
"mud wrestling with a pig", right? :-)


Matt