New Logi Wheel G25

Steve Simpson wrote:
>>Looks to fill the niche that was just talked about here on RAS. Looks
>>interesting and Im looking forward to some reviews.
>
>
> I'm not sure that it fills the niche - it just looks like more plastic stuff
> that will break in 6-12 months of regular use. Hope I'm wrong though.
>
>
All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:

http://www.murchisons.net/f1/layout/Momo%20how%20to.htm

Only the most heavy-handed **** could break the momo red.

> All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:
>
> http://www.murchisons.net/f1/layout/Momo%20how%20to.htm
>
> Only the most heavy-handed **** could break the momo red.

The red momo is no longer for sale. The pots in the Momo Racing & Driving
Force Pro wear out fairly quickly and nobody sells replacements.

> All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:

Also, have you had a look at the mounts for the pots in their new pedals?
They are made of the flimsiest plastic imaginable.

Steve Simpson wrote:
>>All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:
>
>
> Also, have you had a look at the mounts for the pots in their new pedals?
> They are made of the flimsiest plastic imaginable.
>
>
I don't use logi pedals with my logi wheel. I use redlines.

Steve Simpson wrote:
>>All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:
>>
>>http://www.murchisons.net/f1/layout/Momo%20how%20to.htm
>>
>>Only the most heavy-handed **** could break the momo red.
>
>
> The red momo is no longer for sale. The pots in the Momo Racing & Driving
> Force Pro wear out fairly quickly and nobody sells replacements.
>
>
Rubbish, pot quality is a different issue altogether. Anyway, look hard
enough and you'll find the pot you need.

> The red momo is no longer for sale. The pots in the Momo Racing & Driving
> Force Pro wear out fairly quickly and nobody sells replacements.
>

Nobody? www.digikey.com sells the originals as repair kits.

For better quality, one must look elsewhere, but they are hard to find with
right values as they are custom made for Logitech by the company that makes
potentiometers.

--
Mika Takala

"muffled titter" wrote...
>> <snip>
> Rubbish, pot quality is a different issue altogether. Anyway, look
> hard enough and you'll find the pot you need.

No you won't, not the steering one anyway.

Jan.
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"muffled titter" wrote...
> All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:
><link snipped> Only the most heavy-handed **** could break the momo
> red.

I'm no Volker Hackmann, but I don't think I was that hard on it, wanna hear
my list of breakdowns?

- paddle switches: 3 sets
- steering pots: 2 (used to be available through Digikey)
- clamp bolts/nuts: 2 sets
- pedal/usb wiring replaced due to bad contacts developing in DSUB25
connector.
- power supply main smoothing capacitor (twice)
- steering shaft sheared off completely at 2004 ESCORS LAN

Now shelved due to excessive play in force feedback mechanism and pedal
hinges.

And, yes, despite this experience with their flagship model, I shelled out
another 112,- Euro with them for a DFP(*), because the BRD Speed7 FF is
still not ready!

Jan.
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(*): through an extra-ordinary amount of settings fiddling it now gives
pretty decent feedback, but is still not as crisp as the MOMO was when new.
The plastic construction flexes and is simply completely inadequate with
regard to the amount of force it can develop. And the ergonomics of the
paddles and buttons are shocking....

"Steve Simpson" wrote...
>> <snip>>
> I'm not sure that it fills the niche - it just looks like more plastic
> stuff that will break in 6-12 months of regular use. Hope I'm
> wrong though.

Logitech could produce excellent wheels, if they were prepared to up their
price point in favour of build quality and provided after sales support.

This thing costs red MOMO money and looks like it'll last just as long,
which, in my experience, is just over 3 years if one's able to mend the
minor faults oneself.

Jan.
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Jan Verschueren wrote:
> "muffled titter" wrote...
>
>>All the key components of logi wheels are made of metal:
>><link snipped> Only the most heavy-handed **** could break the momo
>>red.
>
>
> I'm no Volker Hackmann, but I don't think I was that hard on it, wanna hear
> my list of breakdowns?
>
> - paddle switches: 3 sets
> - steering pots: 2 (used to be available through Digikey)
> - clamp bolts/nuts: 2 sets
> - pedal/usb wiring replaced due to bad contacts developing in DSUB25
> connector.
> - power supply main smoothing capacitor (twice)
> - steering shaft sheared off completely at 2004 ESCORS LAN
>
> Now shelved due to excessive play in force feedback mechanism and pedal
> hinges.
>
> And, yes, despite this experience with their flagship model, I shelled out
> another 112,- Euro with them for a DFP(*), because the BRD Speed7 FF is
> still not ready!
>
> Jan.
> =---
> (*): through an extra-ordinary amount of settings fiddling it now gives
> pretty decent feedback, but is still not as crisp as the MOMO was when new.
> The plastic construction flexes and is simply completely inadequate with
> regard to the amount of force it can develop. And the ergonomics of the
> paddles and buttons are shocking....
>
>
Here's my list of breakages:

1. none in three years!