No cars, not just Chrysler

Not far from me there was a large Oldsmobile - Pontiac - GMC dealer.
Now it's trying to survive with only GMC. Can't get a Buick or
Chevrolet dealership and GM won't let them take on a not-GM brand.

On 04/23/10 08:30 am, Pete E. Kruzer wrote:

> Not far from me there was a large Oldsmobile - Pontiac - GMC dealer.
> Now it's trying to survive with only GMC. Can't get a Buick or
> Chevrolet dealership and GM won't let them take on a not-GM brand.

I don't know how the legal/business relationship works, but near here we
have "XYZ Oldsmobile - GMC," "XYZ Nissan," "XYZ Dodge" and "XYZ Hyundai"
all in a row with no fences between -- obviously all part of the same
family of companies -- so there must be a way of getting dealerships for
brands in addition to GM.

(This particular group of businesses lost its Dodge dealership too, in
addition to losing Pontiac.)

Perce

On Apr 23, 11:37*am, "Percival P. Cassidy" >
wrote:

> I don't know how the legal/business relationship works, but near here we
> have "XYZ Oldsmobile - GMC," "XYZ Nissan," "XYZ Dodge" and "XYZ Hyundai"
> all in a row with no fences between -- obviously all part of the same
> family of companies -- so there must be a way of getting dealerships for
> brands in addition to GM.
>

You are correct. The car store near me doesn't have the area to do
this. They wanted to get one or two of the newer foreign makes. They
could have, BUT, they could not be housed in the same building of lot
with the GMCs. I guess the fence separating them legally makes them
separate lots. I'm wondering if they would need separate buildings for
service/repair.

What do you consider as a newer foreign make?

DAS

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You are correct. The car store near me doesn't have the area to do
this. They wanted to get one or two of the newer foreign makes. They
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In article >,
"Percival P. Cassidy" > wrote:

> I don't know how the legal/business relationship works, but near here we
> have "XYZ Oldsmobile - GMC," "XYZ Nissan," "XYZ Dodge" and "XYZ Hyundai"
> all in a row with no fences between -- obviously all part of the same
> family of companies -- so there must be a way of getting dealerships for
> brands in addition to GM.
>
> (This particular group of businesses lost its Dodge dealership too, in
> addition to losing Pontiac.)

In our area a gentleman who started as a GM salesman in his youth,
eventually owned several GM dealerships.
A number of years ago he got out of his GM dealerships, one by one.
He changed his last GM dealership to Suzuki a few years ago.
So he saw the light and chucked GM in time.

He now has 7 car dealerships, only a Chrysler-Jeep-Dodge dealership left
of the big-3.

On Apr 24, 6:39*pm, "DAS" > wrote:
> What do you consider as a newer foreign make?
>

Ones that haven't been sold in the states as long as Honda, Nissan,
Subaru and Toyota.

Pete E. Kruzer wrote:

> On Apr 24, 6:39 pm, "DAS" > wrote:
>> What do you consider as a newer foreign make?
>>
>
> Ones that haven't been sold in the states as long as Honda, Nissan,
> Subaru and Toyota.
Remember when they actually HAD Peugot, Renault, Alfa and Fiat dealers? I
had a teacher friend who had a Peugot 405 that needed a new tire, wheel size
was 14.5"! She went to a junkyard and got four 15" wheels in order to buy
cheaper tires! I remember the seats were always comfortable in French cars
however

sctvguy1 wrote:
> Pete E. Kruzer wrote:
>
>> On Apr 24, 6:39 pm, "DAS" > wrote:
>>> What do you consider as a newer foreign make?
>>>
>> Ones that haven't been sold in the states as long as Honda, Nissan,
>> Subaru and Toyota.
> Remember when they actually HAD Peugot, Renault, Alfa and Fiat dealers? I
> had a teacher friend who had a Peugot 405 that needed a new tire, wheel size
> was 14.5"! She went to a junkyard and got four 15" wheels in order to buy
> cheaper tires! I remember the seats were always comfortable in French cars
> however

The nearest experience I had with Peugeot was when I was in the Navy.
Someone I was stationed with (in the states) bought one of the diesel
wagons that everyone was excited about. That was in the '72-'74
time-frame. My recollection is that his individually and pretty much
everyone's in general experience was a disaster (engine or engine
controls problems?) - I know his was constantly in and out of the dealer
with never any fix for whatever the problem(s) was (were). IIRC, it was
so bad that Peugeot ended up buying back all of them in the U.S. That
had to be quite a marketing and money hit for the company in the U.S.

--
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

remember these ugly ass things?


http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Fiat_X1-9.jpg



glad they have improved their line up.


"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> sctvguy1 wrote:
>> Pete E. Kruzer wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 24, 6:39 pm, "DAS" > wrote:
>>>> What do you consider as a newer foreign make?
>>>>
>>> Ones that haven't been sold in the states as long as Honda, Nissan,
>>> Subaru and Toyota.
>> Remember when they actually HAD Peugot, Renault, Alfa and Fiat dealers?
>> I had a teacher friend who had a Peugot 405 that needed a new tire, wheel
>> size was 14.5"! She went to a junkyard and got four 15" wheels in order
>> to buy cheaper tires! I remember the seats were always comfortable in
>> French cars however
>
> The nearest experience I had with Peugeot was when I was in the Navy.
> Someone I was stationed with (in the states) bought one of the diesel
> wagons that everyone was excited about. That was in the '72-'74
> time-frame. My recollection is that his individually and pretty much
> everyone's in general experience was a disaster (engine or engine controls
> problems?) - I know his was constantly in and out of the dealer with never
> any fix for whatever the problem(s) was (were). IIRC, it was so bad that
> Peugeot ended up buying back all of them in the U.S. That had to be quite
> a marketing and money hit for the company in the U.S.
>
> --
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')

rob wrote:

> remember these ugly ass things?
>
>
> http://www.diseno-art.com/images/Fiat_X1-9.jpg
>
>
>
> glad they have improved their line up.
My brother had one of those for a short time, always a problem, stayed
parked more than it ran!