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Ask the dealer to look up TSB 18-18-04. It supposedly (I haven't actually
seen it cause the dealer claims TSB's are confidential) addresses this issue to the letter. Customer gripes brand new $30,000 vehicle idles like ****, feels like it's going to stall when it's warm. They did mine Yesterday, and it fixed it. "Kevin" > wrote in message ... > Bob. The PCM has been flashed. TWICE.... > > "Bob" > wrote in message > .. . > > > > "Kevin" > wrote in message > > ... > > > I mentioned for them to check the sensors individually off the vehicle, > > but > > > they won't. I laughed at the de-carb as the miles is so low. > > > > > > "Kevin" > wrote in message > > > > > > ... > > > I just heard back for Star, the chrysler engineers. It's a normal > > > occurance, > > > there is no problem with the van. they have instructed the dealer to > > > make no further repairs. > > > > They are lying! I just got a call from my dealer Today - I haven't been > > there, or talked to them for months - There is a service bulleting for > this. > > It involves a PCM flash. I haven't called them back yet - too busy - but > I'm > > gonna be the guinea pig. I'll post the info / results as soon as I get > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Kevin" > wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > All the times I have had it in, it is idleing at 500 RPM > > in > > > > > drive, > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > noticable stutter. You can feel the miss happening. But > > the > > > > > kicker > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > computer doesn't record the miss, but you can feel it, > and > > > > > notice > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > idle is for ****. It has been documented that the idle > is > > > > > wrong > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > don't know why. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THanks > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Bob" > wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > .. . > > > > > > > > > > > > But.... And here's the important part: What did they > put > > > > > on the > > > > > > > > > > diagnosis > > > > > > > > > > > > section of the ticket? If it says "could not > duplicate:, > > > > > or > > > > > > > "normal > > > > > > > > > > > > operation", or something to that effect, the four > tries > > > > > hasn't > > > > > > > > > started. > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > have a 2004 Town and Country, and the symptoms are > > > > > identical. > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > > > posted > > > > > > > > > > > > here about the same problem: http://tinyurl.com/2p9gt > > > > > since I've > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's been in three times, and they can't / won't fix > it. > > > > > They > > > > > > say > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > multiple complaints about it, and "claim" that they > have > > > > > had a > > > > > > > > > district > > > > > > > > > > > > manager look into it. Calls to Chrylser resulted in > > "talk > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > friendly > > > > > > > > > > > > dealer". It's really fun when, in hot weather, and > when > > > > > the > > > > > > engine > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > hot, > > > > > > > > > > > > and you've stopped at a light, you step on the gas, > and > > it > > > > > > thinks > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > whether it's gonna stall or not - it hasn't actually > > > > > stalled > > > > > > yet, > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > feels like it wants to. They can't duplicate that > > either. > > > > > I've > > > > > > > got > > > > > > > > 8k > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > mine now. If you get anywhere, let me know. n2qew at > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > domain > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > the email address is at for this post. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Kevin" > wrote in message > > > > > > > > > > > > news > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken it back again, and it is worse than > ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They tried to Decarb the engine per the chrysler > > > > > engineers > > > > > > > > (remember > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7400 miles), and now it's even worse. The lemon law > is > > 4 > > > > > > > strikes, > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > now at 3.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dan C" > wrote in > message > > > > > > > > > > > > > news > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 16:52:12 -0700, Kevin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have taken it back. 2 times now. Just wanted > > some > > > > > > > > suggestions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are no other valid suggestions. Take it > back, > > > > > again. > > > > > > > And > > > > > > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too > much > > > > > space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Linux Registered User #327951 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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