Wanted Tire ( Tyre ) Recommendation

Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.

I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality non-shimmy
one.
I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a granny most
of the time.

I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they cured the
shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left, the
side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told that
Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car isn't used
much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.

I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't want anything
that's not as good as the P6000s.
I like low noise and comfort.
I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for fuel
economy.
I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.

Any advice appreciated,
Thanks in advance,

Mark in London

1992 BRG Eunos

I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years ago,
replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
Good luck.

Dransfield wrote:
> Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
>
> I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality non-shimmy
> one.
> I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a granny most
> of the time.
>
> I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they cured the
> shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left, the
> side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told that
> Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car isn't used
> much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
>
> I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't want anything
> that's not as good as the P6000s.
> I like low noise and comfort.
> I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
> I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for fuel
> economy.
> I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
>
> Any advice appreciated,
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mark in London
>
> 1992 BRG Eunos
>
>

"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
.. .
> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years ago,
> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
> Good luck.
>
> Dransfield wrote:
> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
> >
> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality
non-shimmy
> > one.
> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a granny
most
> > of the time.
> >
> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they cured the
> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left, the
> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told that
> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car isn't
used
> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
> >
> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't want
anything
> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
> > I like low noise and comfort.
> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for fuel
> > economy.
> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
> >
> > Any advice appreciated,
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Mark in London
> >
> > 1992 BRG Eunos
> >
> >
>

Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't need
performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a little
shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> wrote:

>
>"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
. ..
>> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years ago,
>> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
>> Good luck.
>>
>> Dransfield wrote:
>> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
>> >
>> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality
>non-shimmy
>> > one.
>> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a granny
>most
>> > of the time.
>> >
>> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they cured the
>> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left, the
>> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told that
>> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car isn't
>used
>> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
>> >
>> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't want
>anything
>> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
>> > I like low noise and comfort.
>> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
>> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for fuel
>> > economy.
>> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
>> >
>> > Any advice appreciated,
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Mark in London
>> >
>> > 1992 BRG Eunos
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't need
>performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a little
>shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
>
I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual help.
I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible choices
at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all possible
choices.

Tom

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
> . ..
> >> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years ago,
> >> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
> >> Good luck.
> >>
> >> Dransfield wrote:
> >> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality
> >non-shimmy
> >> > one.
> >> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a granny
> >most
> >> > of the time.
> >> >
> >> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they cured
the
> >> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left, the
> >> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told
that
> >> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car isn't
> >used
> >> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't want
> >anything
> >> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
> >> > I like low noise and comfort.
> >> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
> >> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for fuel
> >> > economy.
> >> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
> >> >
> >> > Any advice appreciated,
> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >
> >> > Mark in London
> >> >
> >> > 1992 BRG Eunos
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't need
> >performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a little
> >shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
> >
> I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual help.
> I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
> recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible choices
> at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all possible
> choices.
>
> Tom

What I wrote wasn't rude. It was a reasoned, honest opinion. You may need
a tire like the ES100. Why does he?

On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:12:55 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>> >> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years ago,
>> >> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
>> >> Good luck.
>> >>
>> >> Dransfield wrote:
>> >> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality
>> >non-shimmy
>> >> > one.
>> >> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a granny
>> >most
>> >> > of the time.
>> >> >
>> >> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they cured
>the
>> >> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left, the
>> >> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told
>that
>> >> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car isn't
>> >used
>> >> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't want
>> >anything
>> >> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
>> >> > I like low noise and comfort.
>> >> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
>> >> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for fuel
>> >> > economy.
>> >> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any advice appreciated,
>> >> > Thanks in advance,
>> >> >
>> >> > Mark in London
>> >> >
>> >> > 1992 BRG Eunos
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't need
>> >performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a little
>> >shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
>> >
>> I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual help.
>> I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
>> recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible choices
>> at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all possible
>> choices.
>>
>> Tom
>
>What I wrote wasn't rude. It was a reasoned, honest opinion. You may need
>a tire like the ES100. Why does he?
>
In New York it wouldn't be considered rude. In decent places, it was.
Here's a guy who values his Miata as much as anybody. And you chose to
denigrate him and his relationship with his Miata.

Tom

> wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:12:55 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
> >> . ..
> >> >> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years
ago,
> >> >> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
> >> >> Good luck.
> >> >>
> >> >> Dransfield wrote:
> >> >> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality
> >> >non-shimmy
> >> >> > one.
> >> >> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a
granny
> >> >most
> >> >> > of the time.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they
cured
> >the
> >> >> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left,
the
> >> >> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told
> >that
> >> >> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car
isn't
> >> >used
> >> >> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't
want
> >> >anything
> >> >> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
> >> >> > I like low noise and comfort.
> >> >> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
> >> >> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for
fuel
> >> >> > economy.
> >> >> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Any advice appreciated,
> >> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Mark in London
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 1992 BRG Eunos
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't need
> >> >performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a little
> >> >shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
> >> >
> >> I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual help.
> >> I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
> >> recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible choices
> >> at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all possible
> >> choices.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >
> >What I wrote wasn't rude. It was a reasoned, honest opinion. You may
need
> >a tire like the ES100. Why does he?
> >
> In New York it wouldn't be considered rude. In decent places, it was.
> Here's a guy who values his Miata as much as anybody. And you chose to
> denigrate him and his relationship with his Miata.
>
> Tom

I'm stilll waiting for answer to my question. Why does this person need the
ES100? You called me out for "denigrating" the OP - but it was OK for you
to denigrate a whole State.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:52:03 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:12:55 -0600, "Frank Berger"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
>> >> . ..
>> >> >> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years
>ago,
>> >> >> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
>> >> >> Good luck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dransfield wrote:
>> >> >> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good quality
>> >> >non-shimmy
>> >> >> > one.
>> >> >> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a
>granny
>> >> >most
>> >> >> > of the time.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they
>cured
>> >the
>> >> >> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread left,
>the
>> >> >> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm told
>> >that
>> >> >> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car
>isn't
>> >> >used
>> >> >> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't
>want
>> >> >anything
>> >> >> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
>> >> >> > I like low noise and comfort.
>> >> >> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
>> >> >> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same for
>fuel
>> >> >> > economy.
>> >> >> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any advice appreciated,
>> >> >> > Thanks in advance,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Mark in London
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1992 BRG Eunos
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't need
>> >> >performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a little
>> >> >shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
>> >> >
>> >> I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual help.
>> >> I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
>> >> recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible choices
>> >> at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all possible
>> >> choices.
>> >>
>> >> Tom
>> >
>> >What I wrote wasn't rude. It was a reasoned, honest opinion. You may
>need
>> >a tire like the ES100. Why does he?
>> >
>> In New York it wouldn't be considered rude. In decent places, it was.
>> Here's a guy who values his Miata as much as anybody. And you chose to
>> denigrate him and his relationship with his Miata.
>>
>> Tom
>
>I'm stilll waiting for answer to my question. Why does this person need the
>ES100? You called me out for "denigrating" the OP - but it was OK for you
>to denigrate a whole State.
>
I didn't say he needed ES100's. I just said I had'em and liked them.
And I didn't denigrate a whole state. NY city folks have a reputation
for being rude. Interestingly, you used the oldest ploy in the book,
trying to deflect the subject from your own rudeness, which started
this.
If the original poster had been an American, I probably wouldn't have
mentioned it in the first place. But he wasn't, he was a Brit just
trying honestly to get some advice. You were presenting the "Ugly
American" stereotype that we are perceived as being overseas. I wanted
to let him know that all Americans weren't that way.
What you said wasn't horrible or anything like that, it was just rude.
Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill.

Tom

> wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:52:03 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:12:55 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > wrote in message
> >> .. .
> >> >> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
> >> >> . ..
> >> >> >> I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years
> >ago,
> >> >> >> replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
> >> >> >> Good luck.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dransfield wrote:
> >> >> >> > Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good
quality
> >> >> >non-shimmy
> >> >> >> > one.
> >> >> >> > I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a
> >granny
> >> >> >most
> >> >> >> > of the time.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they
> >cured
> >> >the
> >> >> >> > shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread
left,
> >the
> >> >> >> > side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm
told
> >> >that
> >> >> >> > Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car
> >isn't
> >> >> >used
> >> >> >> > much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't
> >want
> >> >> >anything
> >> >> >> > that's not as good as the P6000s.
> >> >> >> > I like low noise and comfort.
> >> >> >> > I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
> >> >> >> > I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same
for
> >fuel
> >> >> >> > economy.
> >> >> >> > I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Any advice appreciated,
> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Mark in London
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > 1992 BRG Eunos
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't
need
> >> >> >performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a
little
> >> >> >shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
> >> >> >
> >> >> I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual
help.
> >> >> I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
> >> >> recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible
choices
> >> >> at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all
possible
> >> >> choices.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom
> >> >
> >> >What I wrote wasn't rude. It was a reasoned, honest opinion. You may
> >need
> >> >a tire like the ES100. Why does he?
> >> >
> >> In New York it wouldn't be considered rude. In decent places, it was.
> >> Here's a guy who values his Miata as much as anybody. And you chose to
> >> denigrate him and his relationship with his Miata.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >
> >I'm stilll waiting for answer to my question. Why does this person need
the
> >ES100? You called me out for "denigrating" the OP - but it was OK for
you
> >to denigrate a whole State.
> >
> I didn't say he needed ES100's. I just said I had'em and liked them.

He was asking for advice and spelled out his parameters. Given those
parameter the ES100 is too much tire for too much money. Your parameters
are presumably different. So you really didn't answer his question.

> And I didn't denigrate a whole state. NY city folks have a reputation
> for being rude.

Oh, you only denigrated New York City. That's OK, then. And not rude.

Interestingly, you used the oldest ploy in the book,
> trying to deflect the subject from your own rudeness, which started this.

No, what started this is your accusation of rudeness.

> If the original poster had been an American, I probably wouldn't have
> mentioned it in the first place. But he wasn't, he was a Brit just
> trying honestly to get some advice. You were presenting the "Ugly
> American" stereotype that we are perceived as being overseas. I wanted
> to let him know that all Americans weren't that way.
> What you said wasn't horrible or anything like that, it was just rude.
> Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill.

But you did. And I wasn't rude.

Frank Berger wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 12:52:03 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> wrote:
>>
>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:12:55 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
> wrote in message
om...
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:46:41 -0600, "Frank Berger"
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"David Kennedy" > wrote in message
r.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I've had great luck with Yokahama's in that size, AVSi's 4 years
>>>
>>>ago,
>>>
>>>>>>>>replaced with ES 100's 1 year ago.
>>>>>>>>Good luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dransfield wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Please could anyone help with a tyre recommendation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm not after an out-and-out performance tyre, but a good
>
> quality
>
>>>>>>>non-shimmy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>one.
>>>>>>>>>I only do a couple of thousand miles per year and drive like a
>>>
>>>granny
>>>
>>>>>>>most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>of the time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I put Pirelli P6000 's on about 5 years ago, and although they
>>>
>>>cured
>>>
>>>>>the
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>shimmy, look great, and feel nice, and have loads of tread
>
> left,
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>>>>>>>side-walls are now all cracked (dangerously apparently). I'm
>
> told
>
>>>>>that
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pirellis are prone to do this, and all tyres do it when the car
>>>
>>>isn't
>>>
>>>>>>>used
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>much. So I'm not planning to replace them with Pirellis.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm not looking for an out-and-out performance tyre, but don't
>>>
>>>want
>>>
>>>>>>>anything
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that's not as good as the P6000s.
>>>>>>>>>I like low noise and comfort.
>>>>>>>>>I want to keep the same size (185 60 HR 14).
>>>>>>>>>I guess tread life isn't an issue, due to my low usage. Same
>
> for
>
>>>fuel
>>>
>>>>>>>>>economy.
>>>>>>>>>I don't want to have a shimmy in a couple of years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Any advice appreciated,
>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mark in London
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1992 BRG Eunos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sounds like you want the cheapest crap you can find. You don't
>
> need
>
>>>>>>>performance tires and driving so little, who cares if there's a
>
> little
>
>>>>>>>shimmy? Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first place?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'll try and balance the rudeness written above with some actual
>
> help.
>
>>>>>>I have the Yokohama ES100's, and I really like them. They are highly
>>>>>>recomended by many here. Read the reviews of all your possible
>
> choices
>
>>>>>>at http://www.tirerack.com/. Hundreds of reviews there on all
>
> possible
>
>>>>>>choices.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tom
>>>>>
>>>>>What I wrote wasn't rude. It was a reasoned, honest opinion. You may
>>>
>>>need
>>>
>>>>>a tire like the ES100. Why does he?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In New York it wouldn't be considered rude. In decent places, it was.
>>>>Here's a guy who values his Miata as much as anybody. And you chose to
>>>>denigrate him and his relationship with his Miata.
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>
>>>I'm stilll waiting for answer to my question. Why does this person need
>
> the
>
>>>ES100? You called me out for "denigrating" the OP - but it was OK for
>
> you
>
>>>to denigrate a whole State.
>>>
>>
>>I didn't say he needed ES100's. I just said I had'em and liked them.
>
>
> He was asking for advice and spelled out his parameters. Given those
> parameter the ES100 is too much tire for too much money. Your parameters
> are presumably different. So you really didn't answer his question.
>
>
>>And I didn't denigrate a whole state. NY city folks have a reputation
>>for being rude.
>
>
> Oh, you only denigrated New York City. That's OK, then. And not rude.
>
> Interestingly, you used the oldest ploy in the book,
>
>>trying to deflect the subject from your own rudeness, which started this.
>
>
> No, what started this is your accusation of rudeness.
>
>
>>If the original poster had been an American, I probably wouldn't have
>>mentioned it in the first place. But he wasn't, he was a Brit just
>>trying honestly to get some advice. You were presenting the "Ugly
>>American" stereotype that we are perceived as being overseas. I wanted
>>to let him know that all Americans weren't that way.
>>What you said wasn't horrible or anything like that, it was just rude.
>>Let's not make a mountain out of a molehill.
>
>
> But you did. And I wasn't rude.
>
>

If you think that responding to a tire recommendation request with an
answer that includes "Come to think of it, why own a Miata in the first
place?" is not rude, then we have completely different definitions of
the word rude.

I don't, however, think that anyone really gives a crap, either about
your comment or the responses to it. This is usenet, and a fairly
inactive newsgroup at that. There are no mountains to be made here, I'm
not sure that we can even manage the molehill.

pat