Cracked cyl. heads

Type in the keywords: CRACKED CYLINDER HEAD in search box ; then click
on SEARCH.AUTOS.MAKERS.SATURN- then see how many horror stories come
up!

Then consider if you ever want to buy a Saturn (or another
Saturn)with its worthless short term warranty.

In article >,
says...
> Type in the keywords: CRACKED CYLINDER HEAD in search box ; then click
> on SEARCH.AUTOS.MAKERS.SATURN- then see how many horror stories come
> up!
>
> Then consider if you ever want to buy a Saturn (or another
> Saturn)with its worthless short term warranty.
>

Cracked cyl. heads? more like Crack Head.

This guy has no job, he has no life, he lives in his own little world.
Before wasting ones time looking up "CRACKED CYLINDER HEAD" post that he
himself floods this group with just type in ". You
will come up with tirade after insane tirade. This guy is a nut case to
the tenth degree. Reading his insane post will make you dizzy enough
that you might vomit. The degree at which he post at is amazing and
screems SEVERE MENTAL DISORDER!

If you work for a Mental Institution and would like to help Michael
Korman out please, for the sake of the internet, pay a visite to

> > Korman, Michael
> > 8768 S Arbutus Point Rd
> > PLEASANT PLAINS, MI 49304
> > 231-745-3090

I'm sure you will find this nut case quite interesting. A person could
write a book, no make that volumes of books on this nutcase.

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: 1,030 worthless Usenet post since "Aug 8th 2003"
and counting. 356 days a year, 2.9 worthless post on average a day.

He must be going for a record. Spam has more value than his post.

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Google search in "Saturn" group for
"cracked cylinder head"
MINUS " and MINUS "replies".

Post found:
18

Actual cases of possible legit "cracked cylinder head" complaints found:
8

My search string:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Cr...d+-misterfact%
40yahoo.com+-
&hl=en&lr=lang_en&group=rec.autos.makers.saturn&sa fe=off&sa=G&scoring=d


I posted my findings... I'll hear anyone out other than that bigot
Korman as to their "own" search findings. I however have never "seen" a
case of a cracked Saturn head even though I've been around enough of
them.

As of now I've re-added Korman to my usenet filter (lost from
reinstall). I sugest anyone here that is new to the group to do the
same. Dont live life in the bowels of hate and rage. Live a happy
healthy life and dont let the little things in life naw at you or you
might become a raging lunatic usenet troll like Mr.Korman.

Have a nice day everyone!

Big freaking deal. When I had a Chrysler product there were a goodly share
of cracked cylinder head issues too. Perhaps you would like to go back to
cast iron blocks and cast steel heads (along with the weight penalty and
fuel economy drop). Modern times bring modern problems.

"misterfact" > wrote in message
om...
> Type in the keywords: CRACKED CYLINDER HEAD in search box ; then click
> on SEARCH.AUTOS.MAKERS.SATURN- then see how many horror stories come
> up!

In article >,
Blah blah > wrote:

> This guy has no job, he has no life, he lives in his own little world.

Isn't he the one who was advocating illegal splicing of electric cords
onto smoke detectors, among other things that, well, hey, are suspect?

Cracked heads? Guess he's never owned an old panhead Harley. It's not
that you might get a cracked head, it's you HAVE a cracked head, or
both. They all cracked. Every one of them. No, not just everyone that
was ridden hard, every single one.

Anyway, I don't get this cracked head stuff. I've had an SC2 for like
11 years now, and it's still fine after 233,000 miles. *shrug*. Io
feel cheated now - I didn't get the cracked cylinder head he says I'm
entitled to

Philip Nasadowski > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> Blah blah > wrote:
>
> > This guy has no job, he has no life, he lives in his own little world.
>
> Isn't he the one who was advocating illegal splicing of electric cords
> onto smoke detectors, among other things that, well, hey, are suspect?
> No- I got the idea from an electronics expert. His spliced-on power cord to a hard-wired smoke detector has been running fine for 5 years. Mine still works fine. Still waiting for you to cite the law that says it's "illegal"
> Cracked heads? Guess he's never owned an old panhead Harley. It's not
> that you might get a cracked head, it's you HAVE a cracked head, or
> both. They all cracked. Every one of them. No, not just everyone that
> was ridden hard, every single one.

Sounds like all the engineers at Harley- went over to Saturn!
>
> Anyway, I don't get this cracked head stuff. I've had an SC2 for like
> 11 years now, and it's still fine after 233,000 miles. *shrug*. Io
> feel cheated now - I didn't get the cracked cylinder head he says I'm
> entitled to

Heh- you're the guy that got that one cylinder head that didn't have
a casting flaw in it!

In article >,
(misterfact) wrote:

> Sounds like all the engineers at Harley- went over to Saturn!

Hardly. It was more like, they couldn't cast aluminum very well in the
50's. But nobody else could either. Weld up the cracks and a Pan runs
about as well as a 50 year old motor's gonna.

> Heh- you're the guy that got that one cylinder head that didn't have
> a casting flaw in it!

Beats me, I see tons of Saturns around running just ducky.

Then again, I see you're not complaining about the sludging issues that
Toyota's had for the last, gee, 5 or 10 years (and denied since day
one). Or Honda's infamous replace-before-it-pops-or-you're-****ed
timing belt, or hell, any Honda 5 speed automatic transmission built
within the last few years (Dad's minivan got bit by that recall, now
they're doing something to Acuras again, meaning there's probbably yet
ANOTHER recall action on it's way for Hondas. #2 in 40,000 miles. Why
Honda can't give up and just build a planetary design like everyone else
is beyond me....). Oh hell, BMW's had a few nasty design flaws.

Beats me, when I pulled the head off at 210,000 miles, it looked fine -
no cracks, no serious warpage (anything that old will in fact warp.
fact of life). Got it rebuilt, it'll last another 100,000 plus miles.

If it's a design flaw, they'd all break. Or as one design guy pointed
out to me - if you can manufacture it right and it works, it's not a
design flaw.

Sure there's a few saturns out there with casting flaws. There's plenty
of other cars too. And airplane engines. Be glad a casting flaw in the
heads won't kill you - a JT-8D on an MD-80 in the late 90's exploded
while the plane was on taxi, killing 2, seriously injuring 3 others.
*bang* Before you even hear it, the passenger in front of you is
chopped into a dozen pieces. Caused by a flaw in the compressor hub
that existed from day one at the factory, due in all likely hood to a
broken tool while drilling a hole in it. Too small to have been seen.
Failued 13,000 cycles later and killed 3. Frankly, that's a lot more
worrisome than a stupid car cylinder head cracking and blowing a head
gasket...

(misterfact) typed until their fingers bled, and
came up with:


>
> Heh- you're the guy that got that one cylinder head that didn't have
> a casting flaw in it!

SOME '95-'96 SOHC engines had a casting flaw. Saturn extended the warrenty
on those heads to 6yr/100k miles. My '95 never had a problem in the 109k
miles I had that engine in my car, and it hasn't had a problem in the 3k my
friend has driven that head since I replaced hers that did have the flaw at
129k miles. My wife's '96 hasn't shown any problems at 88k.

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"Kevin M. Keller" > wrote in message >...
> (misterfact) typed until their fingers bled, and
> came up with:
>
>
> >
> >
>
> SOME '95-'96 SOHC engines had a casting flaw.

more like 100,000 of 'em. All I can tell you you is some guy at
Saturn customer service told me this on the phone- but I didn't get
his name. Anyone who wants to argue this point- I'm open to your
number.

(misterfact) typed until their fingers bled, and
came up with:

> "Kevin M. Keller" > wrote in message
> >...
>> (misterfact) typed until their fingers bled, and
>> came up with:
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>> SOME '95-'96 SOHC engines had a casting flaw.
>
> more like 100,000 of 'em.

which is not ALL of the '95 - '96 SOHC engines, and sure as hell not the
"all Saturn engines" that you first posted.

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