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What diesels are avail in Sport utes?
I love diesels.
In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. While aren't diesels available more in the US? I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have kept it. |
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> I love diesels.
As the owner of a 2001 Silverado 2500HD with a Duramax I can't argue with that... =) > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. That's about it... Unless you got some seriois cash, then check out a Hummer H1. There was some talk in the 4x4 trade magizines about Jeep doing a test market in the US with a 5cyl diesel powered vehicle (Liberty or Grand Cheroke), but I do not know if it ever happened. They sell a lot of them overseas and it might be possible to import one..... > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > kept it. Ah yes... I had a 84 GMC Jimmy with the 6.2. With a 4" lift, 33" tires and stock gears I was getting 19MPG around town and 25on the hiway. I junked it with 200,000 miles when the body dropped off the frame. If you really like those, check out military surplus. The military ran them up to the switch to the hummers. IIRC, it was a Blazer with 3/4 ton running gear. Mike |
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> I love diesels.
As the owner of a 2001 Silverado 2500HD with a Duramax I can't argue with that... =) > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. That's about it... Unless you got some seriois cash, then check out a Hummer H1. There was some talk in the 4x4 trade magizines about Jeep doing a test market in the US with a 5cyl diesel powered vehicle (Liberty or Grand Cheroke), but I do not know if it ever happened. They sell a lot of them overseas and it might be possible to import one..... > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > kept it. Ah yes... I had a 84 GMC Jimmy with the 6.2. With a 4" lift, 33" tires and stock gears I was getting 19MPG around town and 25on the hiway. I junked it with 200,000 miles when the body dropped off the frame. If you really like those, check out military surplus. The military ran them up to the switch to the hummers. IIRC, it was a Blazer with 3/4 ton running gear. Mike |
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fake name wrote:
> I love diesels. > > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. > > While aren't diesels available more in the US? > > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > kept it. One of the problems I am told with selling diesel vehicles in the US is that US diesel has a very high sulphur content and modern common rail diesel engines don't like sulphur. I also think the gas stations will need some work as from my experience they tend to have the diesel pumps separate from the petrol ones which puts people off. I have heard that Land Rover are considering offering their new diesel engine in the US. It is a joint Ford/Peugeot design V6 2.7 litre putting out 200hp and over 300lb-ft of torque but still retaining 30+ mpg potential. I believe you should be getting the V10 VW Touareg too which has 313hp and 553lb-ft at 2000rpm. -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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fake name wrote:
> I love diesels. > > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. > > While aren't diesels available more in the US? > > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > kept it. One of the problems I am told with selling diesel vehicles in the US is that US diesel has a very high sulphur content and modern common rail diesel engines don't like sulphur. I also think the gas stations will need some work as from my experience they tend to have the diesel pumps separate from the petrol ones which puts people off. I have heard that Land Rover are considering offering their new diesel engine in the US. It is a joint Ford/Peugeot design V6 2.7 litre putting out 200hp and over 300lb-ft of torque but still retaining 30+ mpg potential. I believe you should be getting the V10 VW Touareg too which has 313hp and 553lb-ft at 2000rpm. -- Julian --------- = Pretentious Sig required = |
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Roughly 1/10/04 07:19, fake name's monkeys randomly typed:
> I love diesels. Lotsa lotsa torque, good mileage. > > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. There is a 300 plus HP diesel with over 500 ft-lb of torque about to be available for the VW SUV. Supposed to be faster than the 310 hp V8 now available, with bundles more pulling power. > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. > > While aren't diesels available more in the US? Crappy high sulfur fuel, the european and modern diesels don't run on it too good. New diesel fuel standards about to take effect over next coupla years should allow some very interesting units to be available. Plus dealing with the particulate emissions of diesels is about to be available. > > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > kept it. Some of the new ones in the pipeline are just as powerful with better mileage. If you aren't in a hurry to buy, check out the EPA and DOT websites for when the low sulfur diesel fuels are scheduled to be available. |
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Roughly 1/10/04 07:19, fake name's monkeys randomly typed:
> I love diesels. Lotsa lotsa torque, good mileage. > > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. There is a 300 plus HP diesel with over 500 ft-lb of torque about to be available for the VW SUV. Supposed to be faster than the 310 hp V8 now available, with bundles more pulling power. > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. > > While aren't diesels available more in the US? Crappy high sulfur fuel, the european and modern diesels don't run on it too good. New diesel fuel standards about to take effect over next coupla years should allow some very interesting units to be available. Plus dealing with the particulate emissions of diesels is about to be available. > > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > kept it. Some of the new ones in the pipeline are just as powerful with better mileage. If you aren't in a hurry to buy, check out the EPA and DOT websites for when the low sulfur diesel fuels are scheduled to be available. |
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On road #2 diesel should be low sulfur (<0.05% or 500ppm) now; I believe the
requirement for ultra low sulphur (<0.0015% or 15ppm) road diesel in US is 2007 or 2008. Red dyed off-road/construction/farm diesel & heating oil may be either regular (0.5% or 5000ppm) or low sulfur, thee latter being perhaps a couple cents more per gallon. Check http://www.eia.doe.gov and http://www.epa.gov/ too. "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message news:umXLb.16078$sv6.43355@attbi_s52... > Roughly 1/10/04 07:19, fake name's monkeys randomly typed: > > I love diesels. > > Lotsa lotsa torque, good mileage. > > > > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. > > There is a 300 plus HP diesel with over 500 ft-lb of torque > about to be available for the VW SUV. Supposed to be faster > than the 310 hp V8 now available, with bundles more pulling power. > > > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. > > > > While aren't diesels available more in the US? > > Crappy high sulfur fuel, the european and modern diesels don't run on > it too good. New diesel fuel standards about to take effect over > next coupla years should allow some very interesting units to be > available. > > Plus dealing with the particulate emissions of diesels is about > to be available. > > > > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > > kept it. > > Some of the new ones in the pipeline are just as powerful with > better mileage. If you aren't in a hurry to buy, check out the > EPA and DOT websites for when the low sulfur diesel fuels are > scheduled to be available. > > |
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On road #2 diesel should be low sulfur (<0.05% or 500ppm) now; I believe the
requirement for ultra low sulphur (<0.0015% or 15ppm) road diesel in US is 2007 or 2008. Red dyed off-road/construction/farm diesel & heating oil may be either regular (0.5% or 5000ppm) or low sulfur, thee latter being perhaps a couple cents more per gallon. Check http://www.eia.doe.gov and http://www.epa.gov/ too. "L0nD0t.$t0we11" > wrote in message news:umXLb.16078$sv6.43355@attbi_s52... > Roughly 1/10/04 07:19, fake name's monkeys randomly typed: > > I love diesels. > > Lotsa lotsa torque, good mileage. > > > > In the US market.. what diesels are avail for purchase new in 2004. > > > > All I can find is a Ford Excursion which is nice vehicle, but a pinch > > large for my needs. Something Blazer/Explorer/4-runner size desired. > > There is a 300 plus HP diesel with over 500 ft-lb of torque > about to be available for the VW SUV. Supposed to be faster > than the 310 hp V8 now available, with bundles more pulling power. > > > > Another new US diesel was that Dodge Sprinter: ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly! > > I think the designer is still in therapy w/ Dr. Melfi. > > > > While aren't diesels available more in the US? > > Crappy high sulfur fuel, the european and modern diesels don't run on > it too good. New diesel fuel standards about to take effect over > next coupla years should allow some very interesting units to be > available. > > Plus dealing with the particulate emissions of diesels is about > to be available. > > > > I once had a 6.2 D Chevy Blazer... it treated me well. I should have > > kept it. > > Some of the new ones in the pipeline are just as powerful with > better mileage. If you aren't in a hurry to buy, check out the > EPA and DOT websites for when the low sulfur diesel fuels are > scheduled to be available. > > |
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There is supposed to be a Jeep Liberty 2.5 or 2.8L diesel coming in 2004. It's
already used in Europe and is reported to get over 25 mpg - pretty good for an SUV. Sometime in mid-late 2005 Jeep may also bring in a Grand Cherokee 3.0L that will be a wonderful vehicle - quiet, efficient, and powerful. |
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