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Old March 18th 05, 09:42 AM
Magnulus
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Default What exactly is "left lane blocking"?

Please define it. Is it driving in the left lane for no real purpose
(ie, the person could be driving in the right lane without much trouble), or
is it driving at a lawful, prudent speed in the left lane to pass or to
prepare for a left turn (as oppossed to breaking the law like every other
fool)? And how far ahead should one get into the left lane to prepare for a
turn? A 1/2 mile, a 1/4 of a mile?


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Old March 18th 05, 04:55 PM
Skip Elliott Bowman
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"Magnulus" > wrote in message
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> Please define it. Is it driving in the left lane for no real purpose
> (ie, the person could be driving in the right lane without much trouble),
> or
> is it driving at a lawful, prudent speed in the left lane to pass or to
> prepare for a left turn (as oppossed to breaking the law like every other
> fool)?


Put it this way: if you're in the left lane and traffic is either/both
piling up behind you or passing you on the right, then you're an LLB.

And how far ahead should one get into the left lane to prepare for a
> turn? A 1/2 mile, a 1/4 of a mile?


Depends on traffic.


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Old March 18th 05, 06:22 PM
Jim Yanik
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"Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote in
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> "Magnulus" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Please define it. Is it driving in the left lane for no real
>> purpose
>> (ie, the person could be driving in the right lane without much
>> trouble), or
>> is it driving at a lawful, prudent speed in the left lane to pass or
>> to prepare for a left turn (as oppossed to breaking the law like
>> every other fool)?

>
> Put it this way: if you're in the left lane and traffic is either/both
> piling up behind you or passing you on the right, then you're an LLB.
>
> And how far ahead should one get into the left lane to prepare for a
>> turn? A 1/2 mile, a 1/4 of a mile?

>
> Depends on traffic.
>
>
>


In most cases,there should not be any left exits/entrances on limited
access highways.It means there would have to be merging traffic into the
passing lane,or exiting(slowing) traffic from the passing lane.

And don't even bother mentioning "properly designed exit/entrance ramps",as
the slowing still occurs due to the clueless,regardless of ramp design.

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Old March 19th 05, 06:57 AM
Skip Elliott Bowman
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"Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
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> "Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote in
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>> "Magnulus" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Please define it. Is it driving in the left lane for no real
>>> purpose
>>> (ie, the person could be driving in the right lane without much
>>> trouble), or
>>> is it driving at a lawful, prudent speed in the left lane to pass or
>>> to prepare for a left turn (as oppossed to breaking the law like
>>> every other fool)?

>>
>> Put it this way: if you're in the left lane and traffic is either/both
>> piling up behind you or passing you on the right, then you're an LLB.
>>
>> And how far ahead should one get into the left lane to prepare for a
>>> turn? A 1/2 mile, a 1/4 of a mile?

>>
>> Depends on traffic.
>>
>>
>>

>
> In most cases,there should not be any left exits/entrances on limited
> access highways.It means there would have to be merging traffic into the
> passing lane,or exiting(slowing) traffic from the passing lane.


In Seattle there are more than a few, especially the closer you get to
downtown.

> And don't even bother mentioning "properly designed exit/entrance
> ramps",as
> the slowing still occurs due to the clueless,regardless of ramp design.


Zacly.


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Old March 19th 05, 03:14 PM
Jim Yanik
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"Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote in
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> "Jim Yanik" .> wrote in message
> .. .
>> "Skip Elliott Bowman" > wrote in
>> link.net:
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>>> "Magnulus" > wrote in message
>>> . ..
>>>> Please define it. Is it driving in the left lane for no real
>>>> purpose
>>>> (ie, the person could be driving in the right lane without much
>>>> trouble), or
>>>> is it driving at a lawful, prudent speed in the left lane to pass or
>>>> to prepare for a left turn (as oppossed to breaking the law like
>>>> every other fool)?
>>>
>>> Put it this way: if you're in the left lane and traffic is either/both
>>> piling up behind you or passing you on the right, then you're an LLB.
>>>
>>> And how far ahead should one get into the left lane to prepare for a
>>>> turn? A 1/2 mile, a 1/4 of a mile?
>>>
>>> Depends on traffic.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> In most cases,there should not be any left exits/entrances on limited
>> access highways.It means there would have to be merging traffic into the
>> passing lane,or exiting(slowing) traffic from the passing lane.

>
> In Seattle there are more than a few, especially the closer you get to
> downtown.


Same for Orlando's I-4,and that's where the traffic problems arise,causing
huge backups(and collisions) during peak hours. I am amazed the traffic
engineers have not noticed it.
>
>> And don't even bother mentioning "properly designed exit/entrance
>> ramps",as
>> the slowing still occurs due to the clueless,regardless of ramp design.

>
> Zacly.
>
>
>




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Old March 19th 05, 03:54 PM
Dave C.
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> Same for Orlando's I-4,and that's where the traffic problems arise,causing
> huge backups(and collisions) during peak hours. I am amazed the traffic
> engineers have not noticed it.


Like hell they haven't. They noticed it long before the contract to build
the road was placed out for bid. Do you think that road isn't EXACTLY as
the traffic engineers designed it to be? The engineers KNOW that left side
entrance/exit ramps cause huge problems. That's specifically why the exits
are on the wrong side of the road. (duh!) -Dave


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Old March 19th 05, 12:03 AM
John David Galt
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Magnulus wrote:
> Please define it.


Driving in the left lane except for a short distance to pass or to make
a left turn. Or even if you're there for one of those purposes, failing
to go as fast while there as the person behind you wants to go.
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Old March 19th 05, 07:00 AM
Skip Elliott Bowman
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"John David Galt" > wrote in message
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> Magnulus wrote:
>> Please define it.

>
> Driving in the left lane except for a short distance to pass or to make
> a left turn. Or even if you're there for one of those purposes, failing
> to go as fast while there as the person behind you wants to go.


If you're in the left lane on a long stretch of rural freeway, flat and
straight, and the closest traffic is 100 yards behind and matching speed,
can you be said to be blocking that lane?


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Old March 19th 05, 07:45 AM
Arif Khokar
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Skip Elliott Bowman wrote:

> If you're in the left lane on a long stretch of rural freeway, flat and
> straight, and the closest traffic is 100 yards behind and matching speed,
> can you be said to be blocking that lane?


If there's no traffic to the right, then yes. Faster traffic shouldn't
have to wait for slower traffic to realize they're back there before
moving over.
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Old March 19th 05, 04:08 PM
Skip Elliott Bowman
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"Arif Khokar" > wrote in message
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> Skip Elliott Bowman wrote:
>
>> If you're in the left lane on a long stretch of rural freeway, flat and
>> straight, and the closest traffic is 100 yards behind and matching speed,
>> can you be said to be blocking that lane?

>
> If there's no traffic to the right, then yes. Faster traffic shouldn't
> have to wait for slower traffic to realize they're back there before
> moving over.


Arif, as I mentioned, their speeds are matching--there is no faster or
slower.


 




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