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"Bernard Farquart" > wrote in message news:RZ1Dd.26135$_62.16730@trnddc01... > > "Daniel J. Stern" > wrote in message > n.umich.edu... >> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, N8N wrote: >> >>> Well, in my experience, I've never had a truly *BAD* German-made >>> product, which sadly, I can't say for domestic products. So buying >>> German does seem to give some amount of assurance that you are getting >>> at least an acceptable quality product. >> >> My experience differs. Everyone makes crap, all over the world. Some >> countries, to varying degrees, also make good stuff. >> >> My experience with German cars has been awful. > > Late 80's and early 90's vw & Audi cars had some issues, > but for the most part, for decades, German cars are pretty > good designs, I have a 928 with over 200,000 miles, and it > still does what it should (well, it's getting new driveline bearings > now, but c'mon, its got a ****load of miles on it.) and I have a > Mercedes 300sd with 236,000 miles, and it drives like it > had a tenth as many on it. > > You just have to pick the right ones, just like anything, > go price a carburetor for a 80's Honda, and talk about > design. > > Bernard > I too have had nothing but good luck with VW.... an early 90's VW with 280,000km of relatively troublefree driving and now a 2002 VW. The 2002 TDI has done 80,000 km with only a single lightbulb burning out!!!!! |
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In rec.autos.tech Huw > wrote:
> "Steve" > wrote in message > ... > > Huw wrote: > > > >> > >>>I think people that make a big deal out of feeding an engine ultra-clean > >>>air are chasing the wrong red herring. Dirt in the intake air is rarely > >>>the life-limiting factor for any internal combustion engine other than an > >>>off-road diesel earthmover. > >>> > >> > >> > >> A road engine on a damp day will injest clean air regardless. However, > >> following a lorry carrying sand without an element could well cause > >> damage within a few minutes. > > > > IF the intake path actually allowed sand-sized grains in, yeah I could see > > that. > > > > But really, what is the difference between 96% filtration and 99% in terms > > of ultimate engine life, and given that you stop the boulders in any case? > > > >> As far as ultimate cleanliness is concerned, I would tend to agree with > >> you. But I was roundly condemned when I suggested that it is perfectly > >> permissible to wash and reuse elements by people who suggested that some > >> dust would somehow get past the pores after this and get through to > >> damage the engine. Like you, I am pragmatic and realistic about what it > >> takes to make a lump of metal continue to tick, because I own and run > >> very many of them. Given the choice however, I would use elements with > >> the best filtration efficiency or at least use the original equipment > >> element model. However, any element is better than none. > >> > > > > Absolutely agreed. My comments are geared more toward people who seem to > > have a terror of talc-sized dust getting past a filter and want > > semiconductor fab-room clean air for an engine that makes carbon grit as a > > NORMAL PART of its operating process. > > > Not only that but modern diesels push a proportion of that hard carbon grit > back into the clean air inlet system. It's called EGR or exhaust gas > recirculation. > Huw All we need now is an internet test of EGR valves. For most people though the main thing is to change your cars air filter every once in awhile. Brand is meaningless in these situations... |
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In rec.autos.tech Huw > wrote:
> "Steve" > wrote in message > ... > > Huw wrote: > > > >> > >>>I think people that make a big deal out of feeding an engine ultra-clean > >>>air are chasing the wrong red herring. Dirt in the intake air is rarely > >>>the life-limiting factor for any internal combustion engine other than an > >>>off-road diesel earthmover. > >>> > >> > >> > >> A road engine on a damp day will injest clean air regardless. However, > >> following a lorry carrying sand without an element could well cause > >> damage within a few minutes. > > > > IF the intake path actually allowed sand-sized grains in, yeah I could see > > that. > > > > But really, what is the difference between 96% filtration and 99% in terms > > of ultimate engine life, and given that you stop the boulders in any case? > > > >> As far as ultimate cleanliness is concerned, I would tend to agree with > >> you. But I was roundly condemned when I suggested that it is perfectly > >> permissible to wash and reuse elements by people who suggested that some > >> dust would somehow get past the pores after this and get through to > >> damage the engine. Like you, I am pragmatic and realistic about what it > >> takes to make a lump of metal continue to tick, because I own and run > >> very many of them. Given the choice however, I would use elements with > >> the best filtration efficiency or at least use the original equipment > >> element model. However, any element is better than none. > >> > > > > Absolutely agreed. My comments are geared more toward people who seem to > > have a terror of talc-sized dust getting past a filter and want > > semiconductor fab-room clean air for an engine that makes carbon grit as a > > NORMAL PART of its operating process. > > > Not only that but modern diesels push a proportion of that hard carbon grit > back into the clean air inlet system. It's called EGR or exhaust gas > recirculation. > Huw All we need now is an internet test of EGR valves. For most people though the main thing is to change your cars air filter every once in awhile. Brand is meaningless in these situations... |
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