OT Less we forget, our American heroes.

Franklin D. Roosevelt's "December 7, 1941, a date which will live
in infamy" speech: http://library.educationworld.net/txt14/infamy.wav
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Oh how I wish oratory was as important to politicians (and the public) today
as it was back then.

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> Franklin D. Roosevelt's "December 7, 1941, a date which will live
> in infamy" speech: http://library.educationworld.net/txt14/infamy.wav
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/

I hope you aren't implyifying that Mr Bush aint no great orator !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
...
> Oh how I wish oratory was as important to politicians (and the public)
today
> as it was back then.
>
> "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Franklin D. Roosevelt's "December 7, 1941, a date which will live
> > in infamy" speech: http://library.educationworld.net/txt14/infamy.wav
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > http://www.billhughes.com/
>
>

Historians will thing so.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I hope you aren't implyifying that Mr Bush aint no great orator !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Me? Never ;-) Tucker Carlson recently said of Bush: "Watching Bush talk is
like watching a drunk man try to cross an icy street."

Reagan had many good oratory qualities. He had good speechwriters and a
strong delivery. I never really liked the way Clinton gave a speech, his
timing was always off...like listening to William Shatner with a Southern
accent.

I do prefer the speechmaking ability of most any US President from the 60's
and back than anyone since Nixon, but that might be just because everything
I've heard of their speeches were probably just the better ones they gave.
But the good ones, like Roosevelt, Kennedy, Churchill, they seemed to have a
way of delivering a speech that made it sound bigger than it was, and made
you hang on every word. Maybe it's because they came up in the radio days,
and had to impart their speeches without visual cues (with the exception of
Kennedy, of course).

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
. uk...
> I hope you aren't implyifying that Mr Bush aint no great orator !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Oh how I wish oratory was as important to politicians (and the public)
> today
> > as it was back then.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Franklin D. Roosevelt's "December 7, 1941, a date which will live
> > > in infamy" speech: http://library.educationworld.net/txt14/infamy.wav
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > http://www.billhughes.com/
> >
> >
>
>

His speech style is more like "see dick run" rather than anything even
resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So instead
of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot leading
the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
really sad.

"Dave Milne" > wrote in message
. uk...
> I hope you aren't implyifying that Mr Bush aint no great orator !
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" > wrote in message
> > Oh how I wish oratory was as important to politicians (and the public)
today
> > as it was back then.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
> > > Franklin D. Roosevelt's "December 7, 1941, a date which will live
> > > in infamy" speech: http://library.educationworld.net/txt14/infamy.wav

> Me? Never ;-) Tucker Carlson recently said of Bush: "Watching Bush talk is
> like watching a drunk man try to cross an icy street."

That's about right. Perhaps that backs up the PR notion going about of
thinking the public would rather have a beer with Bush than Kerry. At least
they know someone else in the party would always sound worse than them.

> Maybe it's because they came up in the radio days,
> and had to impart their speeches without visual cues

Perhaps, but even in the past they've had regular messages to the public.
Reagan's from his days are governor are quite good. Even when there's an
opportunity to be rehearsed, edited and packaged Bush still comes off badly,
shockingly so.

> (with the exception of Kennedy, of course).

That and Nixon made his job all that much easier because of it.

The appeal is probably a reaction to the over-polished bullsh1t of most
politicians.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"wkearney99" > wrote in message
...
> thinking the public would rather have a beer with Bush than Kerry. At
least
> they know someone else in the party would always sound worse than them.

I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
"the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
honest, plain-spoken.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

wkearney99 wrote:
>
> His speech style is more like "see dick run" rather than anything even
> resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So instead
> of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot leading
> the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> really sad.

Perhaps, Bill, but a sign of a good leader is someone who can communicate
well, and using language correctly and clearly is part of good
communication. Part of being a good leader is also looking at an issue from
multiple points of view, but that's a different argument. ;-)

"L.W. (ßill) Hughes III" > wrote in message
...
> I think it is mentally weak of you to associate leadership, ones
> ability to use the King's English correctly. You certainly have never
> heard Harry S. Truman speak, but we could depend on him, as he would say
> "the buck stops here" and he meant it! We called his made up words
> honest, plain-spoken.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> http://www.billhughes.com/
>
> wkearney99 wrote:
> >
> > His speech style is more like "see dick run" rather than anything even
> > resembling inspirational leadership. It's just pitiful what poor public
> > speaking style he uses. He might have any number of good qualities but
> > inspiring people through public speaking just isn't one of them. So
instead
> > of having a Bush teamed up with a Quayle idiot we just got the idiot
leading
> > the team with his puppetmaster off in an 'undisclosed location'. Sad,
> > really sad.