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  #11  
Old July 15th 07, 12:59 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
afx
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On Jul 14, 6:53 pm, afx > wrote:
> On Jul 14, 6:50 pm, Joe Pfeiffer > wrote:
>
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>
>
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> > afx > writes:

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> > >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ction=view¤t=I....
> > > pic of the cables in general including the thick black one I replaced
> > > that I connected to negative.

>
> > As Bill said, black is negative, red is positive. That's the positive
> > side; on my wife's '00 Intrepid, there's a black cover over it
> > labelled "BATTERY + JUMP START" in bright yellow. Didn't yours have
> > that cover?

>
> > >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ction=view¤t=I....
> > > Auxiliary cable that got severed

>
> > Looks like a fusible link that failed due to high current. A moment
> > of silence, please: that fusible link gave its life to try to save the
> > car's electronics.

>
> > >http://s208.photobucket.com/albums/b...ction=view¤t=I....
> > > Picture of the positive battery terminal on the positive side of the
> > > battery.

>
> > I can't make out any markings that help me to guess what's going on
> > here. I see you put red felt under the cable; I can't see any
> > markings telling that that that's really the positive side. Your
> > camera seems to have decided the battery strap and something in a
> > sheath were more interesting than the battery, and focussed on them.

>
> > So... if I'm reading what you've said correctly, and I'm looking at
> > the photos correctly, you hooked up the battery backwards. There is
> > at least one toasted fusible link, and that positive battery lead in
> > the first picture doesn't look good either.

>
> > I don't even want to think about what might have happened to the
> > various computers, radios, etc wandering around the vehicle. Good
> > luck...

>
> Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> post is a negative cable then I did it right.
>
> Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
> change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
> batt in.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -






So is it still a consensus that I put it on backwards? The cable on
the last picture is red so I figure it to be a positive.

To answer your cap question, about 5 years ago she took it to Sams to
have a new batt put in. They didnt know how to do it so they butchered
the hell out of the whole area braking caps and whatnot so I dont have
any caps left

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  #12  
Old July 15th 07, 01:25 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
aarcuda69062
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Default Battery replacement issue (big one)

In article
. com>,
afx > wrote:

> Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> post is a negative cable then I did it right.


That's just it, that is NOT the negative cable, it's the positive
cable. You connected the battery backwards, and like Joe said,
one can only wonder how much damage was caused.

> Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
> change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
> batt in.


Uh, yeah, because you hooked it (the new battery) up backwards.
  #13  
Old July 15th 07, 01:35 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
aarcuda69062
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In article
.com>,
afx > wrote:

> So is it still a consensus that I put it on backwards?


I guarantee that you hooked it up backwards.

> The cable on
> the last picture is red so I figure it to be a positive.


Cables come in all sorts of colors. You may notice that the fuse
link that failed is connected to a red wire. hmmm...

> To answer your cap question, about 5 years ago she took it to Sams to
> have a new batt put in. They didnt know how to do it so they butchered
> the hell out of the whole area braking caps and whatnot so I dont have
> any caps left


Thank Chrysler for putting safe guards on their vehicles,
otherwise you'd be posting with a face full of battery acid.
  #14  
Old July 15th 07, 01:35 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
afx
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Default Battery replacement issue (big one)

On Jul 14, 7:25 pm, aarcuda69062 > wrote:
> In article
> . com>,
>
> afx > wrote:
> > Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> > sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> > post is a negative cable then I did it right.

>
> That's just it, that is NOT the negative cable, it's the positive
> cable. You connected the battery backwards, and like Joe said,
> one can only wonder how much damage was caused.
>
> > Here is whats confusing me, I just put in a new battery, I didnt
> > change anything else out, the car started fine before I put the new
> > batt in.

>
> Uh, yeah, because you hooked it (the new battery) up backwards.


gocha, going to check on what I did manana.

  #15  
Old July 15th 07, 01:43 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
aarcuda69062
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Default Battery replacement issue (big one)

In article
.com>,
afx > wrote:

> > Uh, yeah, because you hooked it (the new battery) up backwards.

>
> gocha, going to check on what I did manana.


Anyway, sorry that this is likely going to cost you hundreds if
not thousands of dollars.
On the bright side, you've convinced me to up my labor charge for
installing batteries.
What ever you do, DON'T buy a Mercedes!
  #16  
Old July 15th 07, 01:44 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
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afx > writes:
>
> Well the markings on the first picture have a negative on it so im
> sure thats the negative side, if that black cable connected to the red
> post is a negative cable then I did it right.


That red post is to put a positive cable on.

  #17  
Old July 15th 07, 01:47 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
afx
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Default Battery replacement issue (big one)

On Jul 14, 7:35 pm, aarcuda69062 > wrote:
> In article
> .com>,
>
> afx > wrote:
> > So is it still a consensus that I put it on backwards?

>
> I guarantee that you hooked it up backwards.
>
> > The cable on
> > the last picture is red so I figure it to be a positive.

>
> Cables come in all sorts of colors. You may notice that the fuse
> link that failed is connected to a red wire. hmmm...
>
> > To answer your cap question, about 5 years ago she took it to Sams to
> > have a new batt put in. They didnt know how to do it so they butchered
> > the hell out of the whole area braking caps and whatnot so I dont have
> > any caps left

>
> Thank Chrysler for putting safe guards on their vehicles,
> otherwise you'd be posting with a face full of battery acid.


I appreciate that. /sarcasm

  #18  
Old July 15th 07, 03:57 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Ron Seiden
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"afx" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Thats exactly what I thought it sounded like, but the thing is I put
> the battery cables on just like the old battery had them on, the weird
> thing I was thinking of was the negative cable connected to the left
> side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
> that correctly done? Maybe the old battery just didnt have enough
> juice to give this reaction?
>

Umm, generally red is the positive terminal and black is the negative,
regardless of where they are on the battery. No matter what, every auto
battery has a "+" and "-" marked next to the relevant terminals. Forget
about "doing like it used to look" -- just do it right.

If you did connect it backwards, there's a chance you've fried the
electronic brain (which would explain the weird behavior)....


  #19  
Old July 15th 07, 05:31 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Glenn O'Connor
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"Ron Seiden" > wrote in message
news:H2gmi.1856$Wh4.773@trndny06...
> "afx" > wrote in message
> ups.com...
>> Thats exactly what I thought it sounded like, but the thing is I put
>> the battery cables on just like the old battery had them on, the weird
>> thing I was thinking of was the negative cable connected to the left
>> side of that red post that the positive connects to the other side, is
>> that correctly done? Maybe the old battery just didnt have enough
>> juice to give this reaction?
>>

> Umm, generally red is the positive terminal and black is the negative,
> regardless of where they are on the battery. No matter what, every auto
> battery has a "+" and "-" marked next to the relevant terminals. Forget
> about "doing like it used to look" -- just do it right.
>
> If you did connect it backwards, there's a chance you've fried the
> electronic brain (which would explain the weird behavior)....
>
>>The body controller may have been effected deleteriously. Those red and
>>black blocks (with heavy-duty studs) are the terminal connections for
>>hooking up jumper cables, denoting proper polarity.



  #20  
Old July 15th 07, 05:32 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.chrysler
Henry Bemis
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Hee hee! I did this once (and only once!). It was on my 56 Chevy. Dang thing
started up and the only clue it was backwards was the 8 track chewed the sh*t
out of my Arlo Guthrie tape from Columbia House!

> On the bright side, you've convinced me to up my labor charge for installing
> batteries.
> What ever you do, DON'T buy a Mercedes!


Daddy always said, if you don't know how......PAY the man!



 




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