SC2 still leaking

Ug, water water everywhere, I feel like the Kevin Costner of Saturnworld.

My previous post: "Life of S-series door seals?" Today the remnants of
that tropical storm brought light drizzle all day from 10 to 5. After work,
I got in my car and lo and behold, the same water spot as before, same spot!

I got the car home and removed the passenger side kick panel and peeled the
rug back, yep, damp. This time, I peeled the rug all the way up back to the
dash console and put my hand up under the rubber matting, wetter still. The
driver's side is dry.

This reminds me of when I had a "smile seal" on my old '94 SL2 and it
flooded the floorboard, but this time the rain is causing it. Last week I
had the techs change the passenger door seal and thought it was fixed, I
even hand washed my car and there was no puddles. Guess it takes a day-long
rain to make it leak.

Any ideas? I would guess that the leak is coming from up in the cowl vent?
TIA

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marx404

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> Ug, water water everywhere, I feel like the Kevin Costner of Saturnworld.
>
> My previous post: "Life of S-series door seals?" Today the remnants of
> that tropical storm brought light drizzle all day from 10 to 5. After work,
> I got in my car and lo and behold, the same water spot as before, same spot!
>
> I got the car home and removed the passenger side kick panel and peeled the
> rug back, yep, damp. This time, I peeled the rug all the way up back to the
> dash console and put my hand up under the rubber matting, wetter still. The
> driver's side is dry.
>
> This reminds me of when I had a "smile seal" on my old '94 SL2 and it
> flooded the floorboard, but this time the rain is causing it. Last week I
> had the techs change the passenger door seal and thought it was fixed, I
> even hand washed my car and there was no puddles. Guess it takes a day-long
> rain to make it leak.
>
> Any ideas? I would guess that the leak is coming from up in the cowl vent?
> TIA

I'm just going to wing this without looking at pictures so I dont know
if this is how the S-series is set up. That vented plastic trim between
the wipers and the hood, remove it. Shoot that area with water. (not
into the blowers snorkel) Is it draining or pooling?

Oh here try inspecting this spot

http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/sho...hp?photo=24961

I did inspect the blower air intake seal and it's in like new shape. As this
leak seems to be in the same place as the orig. one I brought it in for, I
am taking it back to the techs to fix it right this time.

marx404

After looking at it myself, I saw that from last time where I had the tech
clean out my sunroof drains and snip the ends of the drain plug to allow
better drainage, he obviously couldn't get his big hands inside that tiny
well in the front inside to snap back the drain tube rubber grommets into
the hole, he just left the tubes laying there. I'm not too happy about that,
I told the shop mgr.

That should eliminate one problem, however that wouldn't explain the eater I
found up under the rubber mats behind and under the center console.

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marx404

Today I ran a hose on various parts of the cowl, air refresher screen (under
the hood), antenna hole and windshield base to verify where the water comes
from. My back is killin' me, I had to remove the side kick panel molding on
the pass side, peel back the rugs and rubber matting and watch as someone
ran the hose.

I isolated it down to the cowl vents. I traced slow droplets from up in the
deepest part of the upper under-dash under the glovebox where there is a
sealant that meets at a point between the firewall and inside fender it
seems to be. Had to lay on my back across the door threshold and put my head
up under the glovebox, what fun, ow.

Gonna shove some towels up there till I can get it into the shop, hopefully
I just saved alot of $$$ on diagnostic fees.

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marx404