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Old November 16th 04, 08:54 PM
tricky
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Default New engine build

Hi Poeple

I am quite new to this group so please be kind !

I am planning on building my first engine. I have read loads on the net
on how to ... performance this ... lightened fly wheel etc etc.

A few times I have come across the statement " but dont do this if its
going in a bus" !

So my question is this - what would be a good design, from carb though
to exhaust for my new engine.

I want not so much power/speed but tough reliable cruising at 70 - 80
MPH. Good MPG would be high on my list to.

I have read that a "square engine" ( stroke equal to bore ) is good for
fuel econ. Small inlet is good for busses ? Keep your flyweel heavy
(180) etc.

I will be using a spare 1300 dual port as my donar.

Any good sites I might have missed ( for bus engines ).
I would prefer type 1 as there doesnt seem to be that much info on type 4 )

Ta

Rich

64 1600 split bus daily driver , 68 1300 bay bus, 78 2000 bay bus, 70
1200-70 1300 71 1300 and 72 1300 bugs.

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Old November 16th 04, 09:15 PM
Speedy Jim
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tricky wrote:
> Hi Poeple
>
> I am quite new to this group so please be kind !
>
> I am planning on building my first engine. I have read loads on the net
> on how to ... performance this ... lightened fly wheel etc etc.
>
> A few times I have come across the statement " but dont do this if its
> going in a bus" !
>
> So my question is this - what would be a good design, from carb though
> to exhaust for my new engine.
>
> I want not so much power/speed but tough reliable cruising at 70 - 80
> MPH. Good MPG would be high on my list to.
>
> I have read that a "square engine" ( stroke equal to bore ) is good for
> fuel econ. Small inlet is good for busses ? Keep your flyweel heavy
> (180) etc.
>
> I will be using a spare 1300 dual port as my donar.
>
> Any good sites I might have missed ( for bus engines ).
> I would prefer type 1 as there doesnt seem to be that much info on type 4 )
>
> Ta
>
> Rich
>
> 64 1600 split bus daily driver , 68 1300 bay bus, 78 2000 bay bus, 70
> 1200-70 1300 71 1300 and 72 1300 bugs.
>


This is going in the '68 Bus ???

Type 1 engines:
http://www.type2.com/rvanness/1600saga.htm
http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9702/engine.html


Loads of Type 4 info:
http://www.aircooledtech.com/
http://www.bostonengine.com/index.html
http://www.dolphinsci.com/typeIV.html
http://tunacan.net/t4/

How thick is your wallet??


Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
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Old November 16th 04, 09:50 PM
tricky
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Speedy Jim wrote:
>
> This is going in the '68 Bus ???


Yes the 68 for now, but if its good I will do one for the 64 too.
The 68 has a twin port beetle engine in that pulls better than the 1600
single port in the 64 !

>
> Type 1 engines:
> http://www.type2.com/rvanness/1600saga.htm
> http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9702/engine.html
>
>
> Loads of Type 4 info:
> http://www.aircooledtech.com/
> http://www.bostonengine.com/index.html
> http://www.dolphinsci.com/typeIV.html
> http://tunacan.net/t4/
>
> How thick is your wallet??


Thats the other thing ! I dont want to spend to much !

Thanks for that - I will have a read.

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Old November 17th 04, 01:08 AM
Wolfgang
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70-80 MPH in a 64 Bus? Hope you live where there is absolutely no wind!

"tricky" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Speedy Jim wrote:
>>
>> This is going in the '68 Bus ???

>
> Yes the 68 for now, but if its good I will do one for the 64 too.
> The 68 has a twin port beetle engine in that pulls better than the 1600
> single port in the 64 !
>
>>
>> Type 1 engines:
>> http://www.type2.com/rvanness/1600saga.htm
>> http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9702/engine.html
>>
>>
>> Loads of Type 4 info:
>> http://www.aircooledtech.com/
>> http://www.bostonengine.com/index.html
>> http://www.dolphinsci.com/typeIV.html
>> http://tunacan.net/t4/
>>
>> How thick is your wallet??

>
> Thats the other thing ! I dont want to spend to much !
>
> Thanks for that - I will have a read.
>



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Old November 17th 04, 07:33 PM
tricky
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I used to drive my 2000 78 bay at these speeds easily. Has anyone out
there got a stock or mild built type 1 engine they are happy with ( or
not! ) they would like to tell me about. I was thinking 1641 pistons and
barrels, 1.4:1 rockers, but not sure wether to use a longer stroke crank.

Some body must have a real life (ie not theory) view on the ideal engine
for a bus !!!



Wolfgang wrote:
> 70-80 MPH in a 64 Bus? Hope you live where there is absolutely no wind!
>
> "tricky" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>Speedy Jim wrote:
>>
>>>This is going in the '68 Bus ???

>>
>>Yes the 68 for now, but if its good I will do one for the 64 too.
>>The 68 has a twin port beetle engine in that pulls better than the 1600
>>single port in the 64 !
>>
>>
>>>Type 1 engines:
>>>http://www.type2.com/rvanness/1600saga.htm
>>>http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/9702/engine.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Loads of Type 4 info:
>>>http://www.aircooledtech.com/
>>>http://www.bostonengine.com/index.html
>>>http://www.dolphinsci.com/typeIV.html
>>>http://tunacan.net/t4/
>>>
>>>How thick is your wallet??

>>
>>Thats the other thing ! I dont want to spend to much !
>>
>>Thanks for that - I will have a read.
>>

>
>
>


 




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