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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> Here's an as-yet-unnamed subcategory of Sloth: the -5 Sloth. The -5 > Sloth drives around everywhere at 5 MPH below the posted speed limit. > > The reason why the -5 Sloth drives at (SL - 5) is still a mystery They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. (I have observed many Japanese cars come from the factory with high speedos -- perhaps an attempt by the manufacturers to make their car look better in crash statistics). |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
Old Wolf wrote: > Scott en Aztlán wrote: > > Here's an as-yet-unnamed subcategory of Sloth: the -5 Sloth. The -5 > > Sloth drives around everywhere at 5 MPH below the posted speed limit. > > > > The reason why the -5 Sloth drives at (SL - 5) is still a mystery > > They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. > (I have observed many Japanese cars come from the factory > with high speedos -- perhaps an attempt by the manufacturers > to make their car look better in crash statistics). "You have observed"??? In what way? Have you done objective tests? |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
Larry Bud wrote:
> Old Wolf wrote: > > Scott en Aztlán wrote: > > > Here's an as-yet-unnamed subcategory of Sloth: the -5 Sloth. The -5 > > > Sloth drives around everywhere at 5 MPH below the posted speed limit. > > > > > > The reason why the -5 Sloth drives at (SL - 5) is still a mystery > > > > They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. > > (I have observed many Japanese cars come from the factory > > with high speedos -- perhaps an attempt by the manufacturers > > to make their car look better in crash statistics). > > "You have observed"??? In what way? > > Have you done objective tests? Driving next to someone whose speedo is known to be correct |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
"Larry Bud" > wrote in
ups.com: > > Old Wolf wrote: >> Scott en Aztlán wrote: >> > Here's an as-yet-unnamed subcategory of Sloth: the -5 Sloth. The -5 >> > Sloth drives around everywhere at 5 MPH below the posted speed limit. >> > >> > The reason why the -5 Sloth drives at (SL - 5) is still a mystery >> >> They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. >> (I have observed many Japanese cars come from the factory >> with high speedos -- perhaps an attempt by the manufacturers >> to make their car look better in crash statistics). > > "You have observed"??? In what way? > > Have you done objective tests? > > How would a "high speedo" make a car look better in CRASH stats? They might come with "high speedos" to sell in the European market,where some roads have high speeds. (the term "high speedo" brings to mind some homo in tiny swim trunks;"butt floss".) B-) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
"Old Wolf" > wrote in
oups.com: > Larry Bud wrote: >> Old Wolf wrote: >> > Scott en Aztlán wrote: >> > > Here's an as-yet-unnamed subcategory of Sloth: the -5 Sloth. The >> > > -5 Sloth drives around everywhere at 5 MPH below the posted speed >> > > limit. >> > > >> > > The reason why the -5 Sloth drives at (SL - 5) is still a mystery >> > >> > They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. >> > (I have observed many Japanese cars come from the factory >> > with high speedos -- perhaps an attempt by the manufacturers >> > to make their car look better in crash statistics). Wouldn't a crash test facility use *their own instrumentation* when accellerating the vehicle towards the crash barrier? It would eliminate any inaccuracies or variance in vehicles. (DUH...) (and real accidents are measured by investigators/physical evidence,not by any untrustworthy indication from the vehicle itself.) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Larry Bud" > wrote in > ups.com: > > >>Old Wolf wrote: >> >>>Scott en Aztlán wrote: >>> >>>>Here's an as-yet-unnamed subcategory of Sloth: the -5 Sloth. The -5 >>>>Sloth drives around everywhere at 5 MPH below the posted speed limit. >>>> >>>>The reason why the -5 Sloth drives at (SL - 5) is still a mystery >>> >>>They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. >>>(I have observed many Japanese cars come from the factory >>>with high speedos -- perhaps an attempt by the manufacturers >>>to make their car look better in crash statistics). >> >>"You have observed"??? In what way? >> >>Have you done objective tests? >> >> > > > How would a "high speedo" make a car look better in CRASH stats? > > They might come with "high speedos" to sell in the European market,where > some roads have high speeds. > > (the term "high speedo" brings to mind some homo in tiny swim trunks;"butt > floss".) B-) > Actually to sell in Europe, at least Germany, the speedo can by law never read low but is required to read within a few kph of true speed. This squares with my observations that German cars tend to have fairly accurate speedos. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
Jim Yanik wrote:
> > Old Wolf wrote: >>> >>> They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. > > How would a "high speedo" make a car look better in CRASH stats? There's a couple of assumptions: 1) The driver uses the speedo to adjust his speed 2) Driving slower means you will have fewer crashes, If you take those as given, then the high speedo (eg. speedo that says you are doing 75 when you are doing 65) will result in having fewer crashes than other cars that are actually going 75. (NB. I'm not commenting on the validity of those assumptions, I'm just saying that that is why some manufacturers set their speedos high). |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
In article .com>, Old Wolf wrote:
> Jim Yanik wrote: >> > Old Wolf wrote: >>>> >>>> They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. >> >> How would a "high speedo" make a car look better in CRASH stats? > > There's a couple of assumptions: > 1) The driver uses the speedo to adjust his speed > 2) Driving slower means you will have fewer crashes, > If you take those as given, then the high speedo (eg. speedo > that says you are doing 75 when you are doing 65) will result > in having fewer crashes than other cars that are actually going 75. > > (NB. I'm not commenting on the validity of those assumptions, > I'm just saying that that is why some manufacturers set their > speedos high). You don't need either. Just that higher crash speed generally means more damage. Driver crashes, has used the speedo to determine his speed. What he thinks was a higher speed is actually lower. It appears the car has less damage at that speed than competitive models in real world stats. Not to mention driver/passenger injury. Of course this only works with the real world stats. The crash tests would be done with lab's equipment. Wether manufacturers are actually doing this, I doubt it. |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
Old Wolf wrote:
> Jim Yanik wrote: > >>>Old Wolf wrote: >>> >>>>They think they are doing the SL, but their speedo reads high. >> >>How would a "high speedo" make a car look better in CRASH stats? > > > There's a couple of assumptions: > 1) The driver uses the speedo to adjust his speed > 2) Driving slower means you will have fewer crashes, > > If you take those as given, then the high speedo (eg. speedo > that says you are doing 75 when you are doing 65) will result > in having fewer crashes than other cars that are actually going 75. > > (NB. I'm not commenting on the validity of those assumptions, > I'm just saying that that is why some manufacturers set their > speedos high). > I think more likely is they don't want to get sued for someone getting a speeding ticket when they set their cruise control to exactly the limit (indicated.) Or worse yet, being sued as a result of a driver crashing (having set the CC to the indicated SL) and subsequently having been shown to have been speeding. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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A New Entry for the Sloth Glossary: The -5 Sloth
In article .com>,
Old Wolf > wrote: >(NB. I'm not commenting on the validity of those assumptions, >I'm just saying that that is why some manufacturers set their >speedos high). Car and Driver did an article on speedometer inaccuracy a few years ago: http://www.caranddriver.com/article....rticle_id=1906 -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
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