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No disagreement. Like I said, it was suggested to me, but I didn't go
that route. My 289 is rebuilt as the 289 A Code it was in the beginning. On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:33:41 -0600, "66 6F HCS" > wrote: > >"Thomas Cameron" > wrote >> Can you actually do the 347 on a 289? Prewitt Racing here in Austin said >> that the 289 stroked was 331 (which I'd never heard). > >I can see 331, but I don't think there's enough deck to do a 347. I think >the assembled height would be too tall (barely). Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 |
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I just checked the Ford Racing engine listing and it lists :
Stroker Short Block (www.cjponyparts.com) 2 bolt 302 HD Sportsman Block in either 342 (M6009A342) $2499.95 347 (M6009A347) $2499.95 302 Stroker Kits (www.cjponyparts.com) fitting 1983-00 302 blocks w/ 1 piece rear seal -342 CID Standard Bore $724.95 -347 CID .030" Over $1099.95 -Forged 347 CID $1694.95 As for rebuilds (www.cjponyparts.com) -65-67 289 $2099.95* -68-74 302 $1799.95* -69-73 351W $2349.95* * plus core and freight Of course, there is the 5.0L Cammer Modular Engine for a paltry $14,449.95. On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:33:41 -0600, "66 6F HCS" > wrote: > >"Thomas Cameron" > wrote >> Can you actually do the 347 on a 289? Prewitt Racing here in Austin said >> that the 289 stroked was 331 (which I'd never heard). > >I can see 331, but I don't think there's enough deck to do a 347. I think >the assembled height would be too tall (barely). Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 |
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Ah, yes, there is also the Paxton 64-68 SB
Supercharger for $2699.95 : ) On Tue, 3 May 2005 14:33:41 -0600, "66 6F HCS" > wrote: > >"Thomas Cameron" > wrote >> Can you actually do the 347 on a 289? Prewitt Racing here in Austin said >> that the 289 stroked was 331 (which I'd never heard). > >I can see 331, but I don't think there's enough deck to do a 347. I think >the assembled height would be too tall (barely). Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 |
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> wrote > Scott, OE rods and pistons and a $220 steel stroker crank (as > referenced on your web site) have definitely got my attention. I wonder > if you could price list the whole deal, or at least broken down into > major categories like rotating assembly, machine work, etc. Any tips on > scoring a junkyard 351? It'd be hard to say EXACTLY what each step cost. First, I haven't recieved the final invoice from the builder, and second, I did more than just the stroker. Here's the engine specs and other minor details... 351W .060" OB. [Came with the car] 3.85" stroke crank (CHP's 393 crank) [new $220] D0 heads-ported, polished, roller rockers, new pushrods and valves [rebuilt] 12cc dish cast 302 pistons (compression set at 9.5:1, confirmed by burette on all 8 cyls.) [new $100] Camshaft& Lifter kit- Comp Cams grind XE262EH [new $325] adv duration in-262 ex-270 (@.050 in-218 ex-224). Valve lift in-.493 ex-.50 Edelbrock Performer intake [came with car] Edelbrock 650 CFM 4bbl carb (rejetted and metered for altitude in Denver) [new $280] 1" 4-hole spacer [new $20] Engine balance- $150. You HAVE to balance stroker's. Without the balance, my 351 would have flown apart by now. For everything including R&R of the motor itself; machining, balancing, honing, notching the block and slight mods to the oil pan, rebuilding the heads. All told it cost me ~$4000. On actually FINDING a block? Well, check with the local club guys and just start asking around. There's GOTTA be some wierd old guy who hordes blocks (CJ comes to mind). Just kidding TS#1. That's where I found the 302 block currently sitting in my Ranchero. I think I paid $100 for it, then had it rebuilt. That build cost me $3200, installed. That block will end up going in my '66 if I ever get around to it (or never if I sell it [the car] first). You might have a local mass rebuilder who'd be willing to sell you a bare used block that's already been machined. There's a local Co. here in Denver called Ridge Reamer. You walk into their warehouse and it's just crammed full of engines. Complete, incomplete, bare blocks, ready to build, just pulled and needs everything. etc. You walk in and tell'em what you want and they'll get it. They have some pretty rare stuff too. Some fairly decent 428 blocks. Sweet! Maybe you can find someplace like this locally. But I'd still start with the clubs. -- Scott W. '66 HCS Mustang 289 '68 Ranchero 500 302 '69 Mustang Sportsroof 351W ThunderSnake #57 http://home.comcast.net/~vanguard92/ |
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Thanks for all the info, Scott. The wheels are definitely turning. Now
if I can just convince the wife that 400 rwhp would be a safety feature for a 16 year old driver. 180 Out |
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As far as I know, you can't fit anything larger than a smallblock in a '65 -
'66 without a considerable amount of sheetmetal modification. If you want big block cubes in a smallblock form factor then the 427 stroker is the way to go. Built on a 351W block, it will fit nicely between your shock towers and with 427 cubic inches it should satisfy your need for torque and horsepower. As an added bonus, you won't have to pay the weight penalty that you would with a bigblock. Coast High Performance advertises a kit to do this and many other vendors, I'm sure, offer similar packages. Richard up in Canada 65 GT350 replica "mtdubvee" > wrote in message ups.com... > My mustang currently has a 289 in it and I was wondering how hard a big > block conversion would be or if I should just build the 289? thanks > |
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"mtdubvee" > wrote in message
ups.com... > My mustang currently has a 289 in it and I was wondering how hard a big > block conversion would be or if I should just build the 289? thanks Replace the front suspension with the Mustang II or Fat Man kit. Look in any Mustang periodical. Cut the shock towers out and put a bad ass big block in there! Pick up a 460 for cheap and build it up, or order it directly from Ford Racing as a crate engine. A toploader, a 9" rear end, traction bars, some wide sticky tires and spiffy wheels, reinforce the frame, headers, an X-pipe, and some Ford truck mufflers. Leave the 289 emblems on and go hunting for some vettes! :-) Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha -- John ThunderSnake #59 |
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Seems like it would almost be easier to transplant the badges to a
Viper.... : ) LOL On Sat, 14 May 2005 20:16:00 -0400, "John" > wrote: >"mtdubvee" > wrote in message oups.com... >> My mustang currently has a 289 in it and I was wondering how hard a big >> block conversion would be or if I should just build the 289? thanks > >Replace the front suspension with the Mustang II or Fat Man kit. Look in >any Mustang periodical. Cut the shock towers out and put a bad ass big >block in there! Pick up a 460 for cheap and build it up, or order it >directly from Ford Racing as a crate engine. A toploader, a 9" rear end, >traction bars, some wide sticky tires and spiffy wheels, reinforce the >frame, headers, an X-pipe, and some Ford truck mufflers. Leave the 289 >emblems on and go hunting for some vettes! :-) > >Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 |
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I agree 100%, but you wouldn't have a Mustang or the pride of the build!
-- John ThunderSnake #59 "Spike" > wrote in message ... > Seems like it would almost be easier to transplant the badges to a > Viper.... : ) LOL > > On Sat, 14 May 2005 20:16:00 -0400, "John" > > wrote: > >>"mtdubvee" > wrote in message roups.com... >>> My mustang currently has a 289 in it and I was wondering how hard a big >>> block conversion would be or if I should just build the 289? thanks >> >>Replace the front suspension with the Mustang II or Fat Man kit. Look in >>any Mustang periodical. Cut the shock towers out and put a bad ass big >>block in there! Pick up a 460 for cheap and build it up, or order it >>directly from Ford Racing as a crate engine. A toploader, a 9" rear end, >>traction bars, some wide sticky tires and spiffy wheels, reinforce the >>frame, headers, an X-pipe, and some Ford truck mufflers. Leave the 289 >>emblems on and go hunting for some vettes! :-) >> >>Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha > > Hey! Spikey Likes IT! > 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok > Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior > Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" > w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 |
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That's true. Which is why I have the 65 Fastback instead of a new BMW
or whatever. A used car lot right down the street did have a Viper. Just not enough room for the family and luggage. The local Indian casino bought it and gave it away as a bingo prize. Probably won by some blue haired little ol' lady who was bussed in from the retirement home. On Sun, 15 May 2005 07:41:03 -0400, "John" > wrote: >I agree 100%, but you wouldn't have a Mustang or the pride of the build! Hey! Spikey Likes IT! 1965 Ford Mustang fastback 2+2 A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok Vintage Burgundy w/Black Standard Interior Vintage 40 Wheels 16X8" w/BF Goodrich Comp T/A Radial 225/50ZR16 |
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