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  #21  
Old May 25th 09, 05:28 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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snipped from below;

I think you're misinterpreted "steady" yellow. They mean a
> normal red/yellow/green traffic signal that's showing yellow --
> as opposed to a "permanent" flashing yellow light like you find
> in some rural intersections




You are right! I misinterpreted the question. That's funny!

Chris
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"Grant Edwards" > wrote in message
ernet...
> On 2009-05-23, Chris D'Agnolo > wrote:
>
>> Tests like that don't tell near as much as they pretend to. A
>> couple of those questions are just stupid in my opinion and
>> the one that I got wrong, I would argue is simply a bad
>> question. Check out #18 ;
>>
>> 18. When you approach a traffic signal displaying a steady
>> yellow light, you must:
>>
>> A. Go through the intersection before it turns red
>> B. Stop if it is safe to do so
>> C. Be prepared to stop
>> D. Slow down
>>
>> First off, this should never happen unless something is
>> malfunctioning.

>
> Where I live, traffic signals display a steady yellow for a
> while before switching to red. Last time I was in Texas, it
> was the same there.
>
>> To me that makes it a ridiculous question. You can see my
>> answer here. They say Stop if it is safe to do so.

>
> Because the light is about to switch to red, and it's illegal
> to enter the intersection when the light is red.
>
>> To me that's ignorant, other drivers see yellow, they are
>> thinking caution, be prepared to stop,

>
> Around here, they're thinking "if I hit the gas now, I can
> probably make it through before the red has been on for more
> than 2 seconds". In most (but not all) areas of the US, there
> is a 1-second overlap after one direction turns red and the
> cross-traffic signal turns green. Add on a another second for
> the cross traffic to react and start moving, and some people
> around here seem to figure that it's still kosher to fly
> through the intersection during the first couple seconds of a
> red.
>
>> they might even be staring at the stupid stuck yellow light
>> and guess who's arse they are going to crash into sitting
>> stopped in the road! Idiotic really.

>
> I think you're misinterpretted "steady" yellow. They mean a
> normal red/yellow/green traffic signal that's showing yellow --
> as opposed to a "permanent" flashing yellow light like you find
> in some rural intersections.
>
> As in all tests, the object is not to answer the question that
> was asked, but rather to ask the question that was intended.
>
> --
> Grant
>
>


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  #22  
Old May 25th 09, 05:35 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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Many years of 2 wheeled defensive riding will do that for you and I believe
it translates over very well into how to stay alive in a Miata! In any car
for that matter but even more in our little cars!

Chris
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>>

> any time i am coming to a stop, and especially on my 93 bmw k 1100 lt,
>
> i slow well before the need to stop and i look in my mirrors to ensure the
>
> potential wingnut behind me is being attentive.
>
> when stopped on the bike, i keep it in 1st and keep my eyes on the
> mirrors.


  #23  
Old May 25th 09, 05:38 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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On the fog question, you have to remember that if you simply turn on fogs,
you don't necessarily have tail lights on. That's the key there. They're not
saying that having fog lights on is wrong or bad but just that 1) you don't
use high beams and 2) you don't drive with only fog lights on, potentially
getting hit from behind.

Chris
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"Carbon" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 21 May 2009 21:51:11 -0700, XS11E wrote:
>
>> Take the test yourself he http://nationaldriverstest.com/
>>
>> State Rankings for best/worst drivers: Note: Many states tied for the
>> same position in the rankings.

>
> Got 100 but I admit that I guessed on a couple. I wasn't sure about the
> fog question, whether you should use low beams or fog lights. And I also
> thought the steady yellow light question was misleading.
>
> Having said all that, I notice that large numbers of people somehow
> manage to fail this test. How is that even possible?


  #24  
Old May 25th 09, 05:44 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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At least as often as not, I think it's a driver who wishes to impose his /
her beliefs (you shouldn't break the speed limit) on other drivers and feels
empowered to do so by the law 'being on their side' in their distorted
little world. These are likely the same people who break countless other
traffic laws on a daily basis, most likely, running red lights and stop
signs because they cause too much inconvenience!

Chris
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"Carbon" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 25 May 2009 08:02:17 -0400, peter wrote:
>
>> the one law i wish were enforced is the "drive right" law where slower
>> vehicles should stay to the right

>
> Nothing is more aggravating than two or more cars driving side by side
> at exactly the same speed, oblivious to the train of aggravated drivers
> behind. This is a very common occurrence on the Interstates, to some
> extent caused by cruise control coupled with extreme laziness. "Well, I
> could move out of the way, but then I'd have to pay attention for a
> couple of minutes..."


  #25  
Old May 25th 09, 05:55 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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Thanks Miker for defending me. I say we split responsibility between me and
the questionnaire (half bad question, half misinterpretation) but I still
would argue in my defense that the question should be stated well, to avoid
misinterpretation ;-)

Flashing green! That's crazy! Did you find out the correct meaning?

Chris
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"miker" > wrote in message
m...
>>> 18. When you approach a traffic signal displaying a steady yellow
>>> light, you must:
>>>
>>> A. Go through the intersection before it turns red
>>> B. Stop if it is safe to do so
>>> C. Be prepared to stop
>>> D. Slow down

>
> I'm with Chris. It doesn't say the light is briefly showing yellow before
> turning red, it says "steady yellow". Malfunctioning. Correct answer is to
> call the city and report it.
>
> Now, what would you do for a flashing green? That's what I ran into my
> first trip to Winnipeg. I pulled over and stopped.
>
> miker
>
>


  #26  
Old May 25th 09, 06:50 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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On Mon, 25 May 2009 11:44:05 -0500, Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> "Carbon" > wrote in message
> ng.com...
>
>> Nothing is more aggravating than two or more cars driving side by
>> side at exactly the same speed, oblivious to the train of aggravated
>> drivers behind. This is a very common occurrence on the Interstates,
>> to some extent caused by cruise control coupled with extreme
>> laziness. "Well, I could move out of the way, but then I'd have to
>> pay attention for a couple of minutes..."

>
> At least as often as not, I think it's a driver who wishes to impose
> his / her beliefs (you shouldn't break the speed limit) on other
> drivers and feels empowered to do so by the law 'being on their side'
> in their distorted little world. These are likely the same people who
> break countless other traffic laws on a daily basis, most likely,
> running red lights and stop signs because they cause too much
> inconvenience!


It's hard to guess the motives of such people. Once I finally got past
one lane hog only to discover he was reading a book!
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Old May 25th 09, 06:55 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
miker[_2_]
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> Flashing green! That's crazy! Did you find out the correct meaning?
>


I think it had something to do with allowing straight transverses but no
turns. And IIRC their crosswalks not only crossed all four streets squarely,
but also had an "X" across the center of the intersection to walk that way
as well. So all traffic all directions had to stop for pedestrian time.

miker


  #28  
Old May 25th 09, 11:07 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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Crazy Canadians! ;-)

Chris
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"miker" > wrote in message
m...
>> Flashing green! That's crazy! Did you find out the correct meaning?
>>

>
> I think it had something to do with allowing straight transverses but no
> turns. And IIRC their crosswalks not only crossed all four streets
> squarely, but also had an "X" across the center of the intersection to
> walk that way as well. So all traffic all directions had to stop for
> pedestrian time.
>
> miker
>
>


  #29  
Old May 25th 09, 11:09 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
Chris D'Agnolo[_2_]
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Unbelievable well, no it's not .... I believe it! Seen it also.

Chris
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> It's hard to guess the motives of such people. Once I finally got past
> one lane hog only to discover he was reading a book!

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Old May 26th 09, 12:01 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.mazda.miata
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"Chris D'Agnolo" > wrote:

>> It's hard to guess the motives of such people. Once I finally got
>> past one lane hog only to discover he was reading a book!


> Unbelievable well, no it's not .... I believe it! Seen it also.


Ditto. SWMBO coerced me into taking a trip by bus to a casino she and
her sister and brother-in-law wanted to visit. The bus cruised the HOV
lane of the freeway for quite a few miles when we left Phoenix and I
was sitting up front on the right hand side which gave me a view into
all the cars on all the lanes of the freeway. There was a large number
of people reading books, newspapers, maps,???? while driving at 65+
mph! Not just one or two but maybe a dozen or more that I saw...

And more that I didn't!

What's unbelievable is that there are so few accidents.



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